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In no particular order my top 100 games of all time

2024.04.12 04:53 KalebC In no particular order my top 100 games of all time

Just a list of my personal top 100 games of all time, let me know if you agree or disagree :)
  1. Minecraft
  2. Mortal Kombat 3
  3. Scum
  4. Dead or Alive 6
  5. Dead or alive 5 last round
  6. Ultima 7
  7. Ultima underworld
  8. Ultima underworld 2
  9. Might and magic 3: isles of terra
  10. Ark Survival Ascended
  11. Destiny 2
  12. Call of duty WaW
  13. Call of duty mw2
  14. Call of duty mw3
  15. Call of duty ghosts
  16. Call of duty advanced warfare
  17. Among Us
  18. Clash Royale
  19. Tony hawks underground (GBA)
  20. No Man’s Sky (early versions not current because they’ve ruined it)
  21. Pokemon shining pearl
  22. Farcry 1
  23. Farcry instincts
  24. Farcry 2
  25. Brink
  26. Bad Rats
  27. Elden Ring
  28. Persona 4
  29. Persona 5
  30. RuneScape (2007)
  31. RuneScape 3
  32. Halo CE
  33. Avatar farm online
  34. Slender: 8 pages
  35. Postal 2
  36. Frogger
  37. Age of Empires 4
  38. Tony Hawk pro skater 3
  39. Tony Hawk pro skater 4
  40. Tony Hawk underground
  41. Tony Hawk underground 2
  42. THPS 1+2
  43. Skate 1
  44. Skate 2
  45. Skate 3
  46. Golf with friends
  47. Elder scrolls adventures redguard
  48. Oblivion
  49. Skyrim
  50. Fallout 3
  51. Fallout new Vegas
  52. Starfield
  53. Wolfenstein Young Blood
  54. Neverwinter Nights
  55. Half life 1
  56. Halo reach
  57. Battlefield 3
  58. Battlefield bad company 2
  59. Battlefield 4
  60. Battlefield 2042
  61. Rust
  62. Fable 3
  63. Session skate sim
  64. Ghost Recon Breakpoint
  65. Wolfenstein 3D
  66. Doom 64
  67. Mario Kart 64
  68. Harvest moon (GameCube)
  69. Clash Of Clans
  70. Rdr1
  71. Rdr2
  72. NBA street vol 2
  73. NBA 2k13 (if that’s the one with lebron on the cover)
  74. Palworld
  75. Madden NFL 2008
  76. Madden NFL 2010
  77. Tecmobowl
  78. Aggressive Inline
  79. WWF Raw
  80. Smackdown vs raw 2006
  81. Smackdown vs raw 2008
  82. For Honor
  83. Mafia 3
  84. Project zomboid
  85. Rimworld
  86. Saints row 3
  87. Saints row 4
  88. GTA 5
  89. GTA 4
  90. GTA SA
  91. Doom 3
  92. Sims 2
  93. Sims 4
  94. Portal
  95. Portal 2
  96. Zoo tycoon 2
  97. Gothic 3
  98. Pokémon ruby
  99. Pokemon heart gold
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2024.04.07 19:49 VespaLimeGreen Rolling Stone - Top 300 Argentine rock songs of the 21st century (part 3)

Rolling Stone - Top 300 Argentine rock songs of the 21st century (part 3)

Part 3 of the Top 300 of Argentine rock songs of the 21st century that the Rolling Stone magazine published in March 2023.
It became the longest Argentine rock ranking of all which have been made so far, dethroning the Top 125 by Listas 20 Minutos, from 2012.
It includes songs spanning the period of the 21st century up to the year before the ranking was published, that is, from 2000 to 2022.
It was intended as a sequel, expanded and updated, to the Top 50 of Argentine rock songs of the 2000s decade, which the magazine had published in 2010.
Links of the ranking: * https://es.rollingstone.com/arg-300-canciones-rock-argentino-siglo-xxi-101-300/ * https://es.rollingstone.com/arg-300-canciones-rock-argentino-siglo-xxi-81-100/ * https://es.rollingstone.com/arg-300-canciones-rock-argentino-siglo-xxi-61-80/ * https://es.rollingstone.com/arg-300-canciones-rock-argentino-siglo-xxi-41-60/ * https://es.rollingstone.com/arg-300-canciones-rock-argentino-siglo-xxi-21-40/ * https://es.rollingstone.com/arg-300-canciones-rock-argentino-siglo-xxi/
In the words of the ranking's organizers:
"The 300 Argentine rock songs of the 21st century
To celebrate no less than its 300th edition, Rolling Stone Argentina presents this list with the best of the local production of the last years. A journey through time, genres, popular artists and underground gems
FOR ARGENTINE ROCK, just like for most of the cultural, social, political and economic strata of our country, 2001 was a bomb that scattered splinters aimlessly and everywhere. A most mobilizing start of the century. In that context it was the release of Jessico, the album which that bunch of freaks called Babasónicos had been hoping to compose for years, which would soon lead them to a state of (in)famous popularity, and which would indicate an aesthetic and a sound for the future. On the Internet, the exchange of music files (songs) was already a reality, but although there were still no platforms where you could listen to any song you craved for a modest monthly price, Steve Jobs presented in October of that year the first iPod with the slogan “1,000 songs in your pocket”. A month after that launch in Cupertino, California, but 10,300 kilometers away, in Buenos Aires, the sky fell on Patricio Rey's head and splitted the paths of the duo Solari-Beilinson. We didn't know it yet, but Los Redondos would remain forever on that side, that of the 20th century.
From that starting point until this third decade, which began with urban music boasting loudly that “whether you like it or not, we are the new rock and roll, kid”, there is an abyss. In between, rock witnessed the fall of heavyweights from the nineties (the breakups of Los Piojos and Caballeros de la Quema, and the dismemberments of groups such as La Bersuit, Ratones Paranoicos and Los Pericos, among others), and the loss of representatives of the genre (Luis Alberto Spinetta, Pappo, Gustavo Cerati, Pil Trafa, Rosario Bléfari, Palo Pandolfo); the tragedy of Cromañón, the closure of venues for live shows and the subsequent wave of unplugged singer-songwriters; the return of the most song-driven Andrés Calamaro and the beginnings of solo careers of all-terrain singers (Andrés Ciro Martínez, Vicentico, Cordera); the rise of the La Plata indie scene with Él Mató a un Policía Motorizado as emblem; the crossover with rap and trap, which is here to stay; and the visibilizing – after a long struggle – of a large number of women leading their own musical projects, with Marilina Bertoldi and her Telecaster in hand as an icon of a new generation. And more, much more.
But, beyond the ups and downs of a country always on the brink of falling and a scene in constant boiling, what never lacked in these lands were great songs. That's why it is worth arranging this update of the list that ROLLING STONE produced in 2010, together with the MTV video network, with the “50 best Argentine rock songs from the first decade of the 2000s”. On the pretext of celebrating the 300th issue of ROLLING STONE in Argentina, this time we add the songs which were selected as the best of each year by the different editorial teams that have worked on the magazine during this time, plus the vote of the journalists who today make up the squad of critics, writers and editors.
The result is a resounding playlist that travels through time and subgenres, that delves into both the work of popular artists and the small hidden gems of the underground scene. Here are songs which are beautiful, complex, innovative; songs that said what needed to be said at the right time; which were played that night and a thousand nights more; with immortal verses, those that are printed on t-shirts and walls and in anonymous dedications. There are stories which are real, raw and reportorial. There's pure fiction and brilliant fantasy. Here are 300 songs that amount to 300 reasons to celebrate the Argentine rock of this century".
List of songs:
​ * 100 - Carca - Luz De Blues - 2013 * 99 - Conociendo Rusia - Cabildo Y Juramento - 2019 * 98 - Leo García - Morrisey - 2001 * 97 - Miranda! - Yo Te Diré - 2004 * 96 - Richard Coleman - Incandescente - 2013 * 95 - Eruca Sativa - Carapazón - 2019 * 94 - Ciro Y Los Persas - Mírenla - 2012 * 93 - Moura Sergi ft. Vicentico - Perdón - 2012 * 92 - Los Reyes Del Falsete ft. Litto Nebbia - Los Niños - 2012 * 91 - Indio Solari - Pabellón Séptimo (Relato De Horacio) - 2004
​ * 90 - Pablo Dacal - El Esclavo Feliz - 2019 * 89 - Duki ft. Bizarrap - Malbec - 2021 * 88 - Poncho ft. Luis Alberto Spinetta - Tantra Sky - 2009 * 87 - Onda Vaga ft. Fito Páez - Gilda - 2008 * 86 - Bajofondo ft. Gustavo Cerati - El Mareo - 2007 * 85 - Barbi Recanati - Que No - 2019 * 84 - El Siempreterno - Full Coma - 2012 * 83 - Charly García - Influencia - 2002 * 82 - Prietto Viaja Al Cosmos Con Mariano - Av. Corrientes - 2007 * 81 - Victoria Mil - G-13 - 2003
​ * 80 - Intoxicados ft. Andrés Calamaro - Fuego - 2005 * 79 - Banda De Turistas - Todo Mío El Otoño - 2008 * 78 - Me Darás Mil Hijos ft. Hilda Lizarazu, Toto Rotblat - Sueños De Autostop - 2004 * 77 - Sol Pereyra - Nadie Te Preguntó - 2014 * 76 - Kevin Johansen + The Nada - Down With My Baby - 2002 * 75 - La Renga - En Bicicleta - 2020 * 74 - 107 Faunos - Jazmín Chino - 2014 * 73 - Guasones - Reyes De La Noche - 2005 * 72 - normA - Freezer - 2012 * 71 - Las Pelotas - Personalmente - 2009
​ * 70 - Daniel Melero - Tu Vida Empieza Hoy - 2001 * 69 - Shaman Y Los Hombres En Llamas - La Niebla - 2011 * 68 - Emmanuel Horvilleur - Radios - 2007 * 67 - Él Mató A Un Policía Motorizado - El Tesoro - 2017 * 66 - Trueno ft. Wos - Sangría - 2020 * 65 - Indio Solari - Nike Es La Cultura - 2004 * 64 - Valle De Muñecas - Días De Suerte - 2005 * 63 - Los Fabulosos Cadillacs - Nosotros Egoístas - 2008 * 62 - Doris - Así - 2004 * 61 - Lisandro Aristimuño ft. Ricardo Mollo - Un Dólar, Un Reloj Y Una Frase Sin Sentido - 2012
​ * 60 - Mimi Maura - Yo No Lloro Más - 2001 * 59 - Luis Alberto Spinetta - Iris - 2015 * 58 - Bestia Bebé - Lo Quiero Mucho A Ese Muchacho - 2013 * 57 - Acorazado Potemkin ft. Flopa Lestani - La Mitad - 2011 * 56 - Ciro Y Los Persas - Antes Y Después - 2010 * 55 - Illya Kuryaki & The Valderramas - Águila Amarilla - 2012 * 54 - Fito Páez ft. Fabiana Cantilo - Tu Vida Mi Vida - 2017 * 53 - Mi Amigo Invencible - Máquina Del Tiempo - 2015 * 52 - Babasónicos - Los Calientes - 2001 * 51 - Loquero - Era Un Día Perfecto - 2001
​ * 50 - Las Ligas Menores - A 1.200 Km - 2014 * 49 - Tan Biónica - La Melodía De Dios - 2013 * 48 - Gustavo Cerati - La Excepción - 2006 * 47 - Onda Vaga ft. Pablo Dacal - Mambeado - 2008 * 46 - Los Cafres - Si El Amor Se Cae - 2004 * 45 - Vicentico - Solo Un Momento - 2010 * 44 - Árbol - Pequeños Sueños - 2004 * 43 - Callejeros - Una Nueva Noche Fría - 2003 * 42 - Boom Boom Kid - I Do - 2000 * 41 - Palo Pandolfo - Oficio Del Cantor - 2008
​ * 40 - Skay Beilinson - Oda A La Sin Nombre - 2002 * 39 - Andrés Calamaro - Carnaval De Brasil - 2007 * 38 - La Mancha De Rolando - Arde La Ciudad - 2004 * 37 - Carajo - Sacate La Mierda - 2002 * 36 - Charly García - Asesíname - 2003 * 35 - Kapanga - Fumar - 2002 * 34 - Fidel Nadal - International Love - 2008 * 33 - Rosario Bléfari - Estaciones - 2004 * 32 - Los Tipitos - Campanas En La Noche - 2004 * 31 - Divididos - Casitas Inundadas, A Votar - 2002
​ * 30 - Almafuerte - Toro Y Pampa - 2006 * 29 - Los Espíritus - La Crecida - 2015 * 28 - Nicki Nicole - Wapo Traketero - 2019 * 27 - Gabo Ferro - El Amigo De Mi Padre - 2005 * 26 - Daniel Melingo - Corazón & Hueso - 2011 * 25 - Flopa Manza Minimal - Debajo Del Álbum Blanco - 2003 * 24 - Massacre - Tanto Amor - 2011 * 23 - Dillom - Opa - 2021 * 22 - Pez - Desde El Viento En La Montaña Hasta La Espuma Del Mar - 2002 * 21 - Attaque 77 - Arrancacorazones - 2003
​ * 20 - León Gieco ft. Pibes Chorros - El Ángel De La Bicicleta - 2005 * 19 - Estelares ft. Jorge Serrano - Ella Dijo - 2006 * 18 - Bersuit Vergarabat - La Soledad - 2004 * 17 - Miranda! - Don - 2004 * 16 - Las Pelotas - Será - 2003 * 15 - Los Piojos - Pacífico - 2007 * 14 - Turf - Pasos Al Costado - 2004 * 13 - Catupecu Machu - Magia Veneno - 2004 * 12 - Juana Molina - Un Día - 2008 * 11 - Pappo - Juntos A La Par - 2003
​ * 10 - La Renga - La Razón Que Te Demora - 2003 * 9 - Marilina Bertoldi - Fumar De Día - 2018 * 8 - Intoxicados - Una Vela - 2003 * 7 - Los Auténticos Decadentes - Un Osito De Peluche De Taiwán - 2003 * 6 - Wos - Canguro - 2019 * 5 - Indio Solari - Y Mientras Tanto El Sol Se Muere… - 2007 * 4 - Él Mató A Un Policía Motorizado - Mi Próximo Movimiento - 2008 * 3 - Gustavo Cerati - Cactus - 2009 * 2 - Andrés Calamaro - Estadio Azteca - 2004 * 1 - Babasónicos - La Pregunta - 2018
Series of videos published by MusicaArgentina about Argentine rock rankings made by third parties — 5th video of the series in 2024, and 17th of the whole series in general.
MusicaArgentina — 2024
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2024.03.25 20:00 VespaLimeGreen Rolling Stone - Top 300 Argentine rock songs of the 21st century (part 2)

Rolling Stone - Top 300 Argentine rock songs of the 21st century (part 2)

Part 2 of the Top 300 of Argentine rock songs of the 21st century that the Rolling Stone magazine published in March 2023.
It became the longest Argentine rock ranking of all which have been made so far, dethroning the Top 125 by Listas 20 Minutos, from 2012.
It includes songs spanning the period of the 21st century up to the year before the ranking was published, that is, from 2000 to 2022.
It was intended as a sequel, expanded and updated, to the Top 50 of Argentine rock songs of the 2000s decade, which the magazine had published in 2010.
Links of the ranking: * https://es.rollingstone.com/arg-300-canciones-rock-argentino-siglo-xxi-101-300/ * https://es.rollingstone.com/arg-300-canciones-rock-argentino-siglo-xxi-81-100/ * https://es.rollingstone.com/arg-300-canciones-rock-argentino-siglo-xxi-61-80/ * https://es.rollingstone.com/arg-300-canciones-rock-argentino-siglo-xxi-41-60/ * https://es.rollingstone.com/arg-300-canciones-rock-argentino-siglo-xxi-21-40/ * https://es.rollingstone.com/arg-300-canciones-rock-argentino-siglo-xxi/
In the words of the ranking's organizers:
"The 300 Argentine rock songs of the 21st century
To celebrate no less than its 300th edition, Rolling Stone Argentina presents this list with the best of the local production of the last years. A journey through time, genres, popular artists and underground gems
FOR ARGENTINE ROCK, just like for most of the cultural, social, political and economic strata of our country, 2001 was a bomb that scattered splinters aimlessly and everywhere. A most mobilizing start of the century. In that context it was the release of Jessico, the album which that bunch of freaks called Babasónicos had been hoping to compose for years, which would soon lead them to a state of (in)famous popularity, and which would indicate an aesthetic and a sound for the future. On the Internet, the exchange of music files (songs) was already a reality, but although there were still no platforms where you could listen to any song you craved for a modest monthly price, Steve Jobs presented in October of that year the first iPod with the slogan “1,000 songs in your pocket”. A month after that launch in Cupertino, California, but 10,300 kilometers away, in Buenos Aires, the sky fell on Patricio Rey's head and splitted the paths of the duo Solari–Beilinson. We didn't know it yet, but Los Redondos would remain forever on that side, that of the 20th century.
From that starting point until this third decade, which began with urban music boasting loudly that “whether you like it or not, we are the new rock and roll, kid”, there is an abyss. In between, rock witnessed the fall of heavyweights from the nineties (the breakups of Los Piojos and Caballeros de la Quema, and the dismemberments of groups such as La Bersuit, Ratones Paranoicos and Los Pericos, among others), and the loss of representatives of the genre (Luis Alberto Spinetta, Pappo, Gustavo Cerati, Pil Trafa, Rosario Bléfari, Palo Pandolfo); the tragedy of Cromañón, the closure of venues for live shows and the subsequent wave of unplugged singer-songwriters; the return of the most song-driven Andrés Calamaro and the beginnings of solo careers of all-terrain singers (Andrés Ciro Martínez, Vicentico, Cordera); the rise of the La Plata indie scene with Él Mató a un Policía Motorizado as emblem; the crossover with rap and trap, which is here to stay; and the visibilizing –after a long struggle– of a large number of women leading their own musical projects, with Marilina Bertoldi and her Telecaster in hand as an icon of a new generation. And more, much more.
But, beyond the ups and downs of a country always on the brink of falling and a scene in constant boiling, what never lacked in these lands were great songs. That's why it is worth arranging this update of the list that ROLLING STONE produced in 2010, together with the MTV video network, with the “50 best Argentine rock songs from the first decade of the 2000s”. On the pretext of celebrating the 300th issue of ROLLING STONE in Argentina, this time we add the songs which were selected as the best of each year by the different editorial teams that have worked on the magazine during this time, plus the vote of the journalists who today make up the squad of critics, writers and editors.
The result is a resounding playlist that travels through time and subgenres, that delves into both the work of popular artists and the small hidden gems of the underground scene. Here there are songs which are beautiful, complex, innovative; songs that said what needed to be said at the right time; which were played that night and a thousand nights more; with immortal verses, those that are printed on t-shirts and walls and in anonymous dedications. There are stories which are real, raw and reportorial. There's pure fiction and brilliant fantasy. Here are 300 songs that amount to 300 reasons to celebrate the Argentine rock of this century".
List of songs:
  • 200 - Acorazado Potemkin - El Pan Del Facho - 2014
  • 199 - Peligrosos Gorriones - Florería - 2014
  • 198 - Chancha Vía Circuito - Sueño En Paraguay - 2014
  • 197 - Los Brujos - Beat Hit - 2014
  • 196 - Mercedes Sosa ft. Gustavo Cerati - Zona De Promesas - 2009
  • 195 - Indios - Ya Pasó - 2013
  • 194 - Miranda! - Fantasmas - 2014
  • 193 - Juan Ravioli - Son Días Felices - 2009
  • 192 - Eruca Sativa - Fuera O Más Allá - 2012
  • 191 - Ratones Paranoicos - Sigue Girando - 2004
​ * 190 - Alfonso Barbieri ft. Lucas Martí - El Pintor Verdadero - 2011 * 189 - Pilsen ft. León Gieco - Nonsanto - 2020 * 188 - El Perrodiablo - Algo Sobre Estar Vivo - 2012 * 187 - Vicentico - Morir A Tu Lado - 2010 * 186 - Viva Elástico - El Gran Encuentro - 2012 * 185 - Cabezones - Pasajero En Extinción - 2005 * 184 - Nonpalidece - Reggae En El Universo - 2006 * 183 - Estelares - Un Día Perfecto - 2006 * 182 - Intoxicados - Está Saliendo El Sol - 2003 * 181 - Gustavo Cerati - Crimen - 2006
​ * 180 - Illya Kuryaki & The Valderramas - Ula Ula - 2012 * 179 - Arbolito ft. Chizzo Nápoli - Europa - 2009 * 178 - Bicicletas - 11 Y 20 - 2008 * 177 - Travesti - Calibre 44 - 2009 * 176 - Los Reyes Del Falsete - Las Cosas Como Son - 2009 * 175 - Gran Martell - Empetrolado - 2008 * 174 - Guasones - Brillar - 2008 * 173 - Adicta - Tu Mal - 2003 * 172 - Los Fabulosos Cadillacs ft. Damas Gratis - Padre Nuestro - 2008 * 171 - Francisco Bochatón - Balvanera - 2007
​ * 170 - Fémina ft. Iggy Pop - Resist - 2019 * 169 - Lucy Patané - En Toneles - 2019 * 168 - Fito Páez - La Canción De Las Bestias - 2020 * 167 - Cuentos Borgeanos - Océano - 2007 * 166 - Florencia Ruiz - Movimiento Final - 2007 * 165 - Pelea De Gallos - Viernes - 2019 * 164 - No Lo Soporto ft. Gustavo Cerati - Nunca Iré - 2008 * 163 - El Bordo - En La Vereda - 2006 * 162 - Los Pericos ft. Carla Morrison - Anónimos - 2016 * 161 - Callejeros - 9 De Julio - 2006
​ * 160 - Boom Boom Kid - She Runaway - 2004 * 159 - Flopa Lestani - Corazón De Pie - 2004 * 158 - Ariel Minimal - A Los Amigos - 2006 * 157 - Skay Beilinson - El Golem De La Paternal - 2004 * 156 - Los Piojos - Dientes De Cordero - 2003 * 155 - Las Pelotas - Cerca De Las Nubes - 2012 * 154 - Divididos - Living De Trincheras - 2012 * 153 - Intoxicados - Nunca Quise - 2005 * 152 - Gustavo Cerati ft. Domingo Cura - Sulky - 2002 * 151 - Los Natas - Humo De Marihuana - 2005
​ * 150 - Ca7Riel & Paco Amoroso - Ouke - 2019 * 149 - Catupecu Machu - Musas - 2011 * 148 - Árbol - Trenes, Camiones Y Tractores - 2004 * 147 - Karamelo Santo - Nunca - 2001 * 146 - Charly García - Lluvia - 2017 * 145 - Pequeña Orquesta Reincidentes - Mi Suerte - 2001 * 144 - Luis Alberto Spinetta - Tu Vuelo Al Fin - 2008 * 143 - León Gieco - La Memoria - 2001 * 142 - Riel - Paseo Psicodélico - 2019 * 141 - Leo García ft. Gustavo Cerati - Tesoro - 2005
​ * 140 - Coiffeur - ¡Qué Mala Suerte! - 2006 * 139 - Peces Raros - Cicuta - 2021 * 138 - Viva Elástico - Imágenes De Amor - 2009 * 137 - Marilina Bertoldi - Cosa Mía - 2021 * 136 - Jóvenes Pordioseros - Descontrolado - 2004 * 135 - Andrea Álvarez - Dormís? - 2005 * 134 - Las Manos De Filippi - Los Métodos Piqueteros - 2002 * 133 - Las Ligas Menores - En Invierno - 2018 * 132 - Babasónicos - El Loco - 2001 * 131 - Él Mató A Un Policía Motorizado - Más O Menos Bien - 2013
​ * 130 - Massacre - La Octava Maravilla - 2007 * 129 - Trueno ft. Nathy Peluso - Argentina - 2022 * 128 - Vicentico - Cuando Te Vi - 2002 * 127 - La Franela - Hacer Un Puente - 2011 * 126 - Utopians - Algo Mejor - 2014 * 125 - Almafuerte - La Máquina De Picar Carne - 2006 * 124 - Los Mundos Posibles - La Guerra Del Japón - 2018 * 123 - Babasónicos - Risa - 2003 * 122 - normA - 6 AM - 2015 * 121 - Mostruo! - El Capitán - 2011
​ * 120 - Lisandro Aristimuño ft. Fito Páez - Desprender Del Sur - 2009 * 119 - Fantasmagoria - Gori Llamando A Río - 2001 * 118 - Andrés Calamaro ft. Bersuit Vergarabat - Tuyo Siempre (Vivo) - 2005 * 117 - Las Pelotas - Esperando El Milagro - 2003 * 116 - Paula Maffia - Corazón Licántropo - 2019 * 115 - Miranda! - Traición - 2004 * 114 - Rosario Bléfari - Viento Helado - 2004 * 113 - Fabiana Cantilo - Desde El Cielo - 2015 * 112 - A-Tirador Láser - Rasante Oscuridad - 2002 * 111 - Pappo - Rock And Roll Y Fiebre - 2003
​ * 110 - Palo Pandolfo - Río Reconquista - 2008 * 109 - Jorge Serrano - Emociones Negativas - 2009 * 108 - Gustavo Cerati - Lago En El Cielo - 2006 * 107 - Gabo Ferro - Costurera Y Carpintero - 2006 * 106 - Wos - Fresco - 2019 * 105 - Usted Señálemelo - Agüetas - 2017 * 104 - Juana Molina - Cosoco - 2017 * 103 - Estelares ft. Andrés Calamaro - Moneda Corriente - 2003 * 102 - Las Pastillas Del Abuelo - El Sensei - 2006 * 101 - Bándalos Chinos - Vámonos De Viaje - 2018
Series of videos published by MusicaArgentina about Argentine rock rankings made by third parties — 4th video of the series in 2024, and 16th of the whole series in general.
MusicaArgentina — 2024
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2024.03.22 09:26 TableFruitSpecified Providing Backstories to the Police Team Characters

Providing Backstories to the Police Team Characters
Note: Several days to write this one because the team has SO MANY PEOPLE! I will shudder in fear when I get to the Patriots, dear GOD. Suggested by u/Independent_Pack_880 on my Providing Backstories to the IF Team Characters post, I also had to create a new page for the team on the Dead Ahead wiki for this one.
Once more, tried to stick to pre-established story lore, and any previous character lore I made. And remember: This assumes the game takes place in 2010. This is also the 3rd out of 4th appearance of Judi Pepper (Pepper), so that's cool.


POLICE, HANDS IN THE AIR! (Left to Right: Pepper, Policeman Diaz, Glenn, Sheriff Charlotte, Agents, Rogue, Austin and Chopper)

Team: Pepper, Policeman Diaz, Glenn, Sheriff Charlotte, Agents, Rogue, Austin, Chopper
Judi Pepper (Pepper) Age: 37
Bio: Growing up, Judi wasn’t always sure of what she wanted to be. Going from working as a cop briefly to trying carpentry to joining the IF and soaring through the ranks, all it took was a misunderstanding for her to be dropped to road patrol. Relentlessly mocked by her peers, her big calling came in the form of a cure for a new virus making its way through the States. Unfortunately, her first week was cut short by the scientists getting infected and her needing to evacuate. By the time she got back home, everything went to hell. Donning her IF uniform once more, she managed to join up with Sheriff Bill, hoping to prove her worth in the adventure to stop the infection.
Notes: - Briefly worked as a beat cop under her father’s supervision. (Officer skin) - Skilled carpenter, although never really liked it. (Carpenter skin) - Accompanied scientists in trying to find a cure before the apocalypse broke (Scientists’ skin) - Fear of birds, specifically seagulls.
Gabriel Diaz (Policeman Diaz) Age: 51
Bio: Gabriel Diaz has lived a long life, most of which he refuses to tell others. Born as the son of a Mexican-American mechanic, Diaz learned how to repair machinery and vehicles, something he put to use on his first (and only) car. At the age of 23, Diaz joined up with his local police force. Known for efficiency at solving cases alone, he was also skilled in shooting, favouring a pump action shotgun for taking out anyone who wouldn’t let themselves be arrested. After leaving the police force at 46, Diaz set up shop as a mechanic, fixing cars and motorcycles for good prices. When the apocalypse was in full swing, Diaz immediately left work, going home to grab his shotgun. After clearing out his neighbourhood of zombies through tactics that could be summed up only as “guerilla warfare”, Diaz shaved off his newly grown beard and donned his police uniform once more, clearing house after house before being picked up by Sheriff Bill. At this time, Bill wasn’t even sure his goal was possible, but Diaz’s reassurance put Bill firmly on his path.
Notes: - Skilled mechanic, and kind hearted enough to offer low prices (Mechanic Diaz Skin) - Celebrates Day of the Dead whenever it comes up, no exceptions (Desperado Skin) - Had a girlfriend during his time as a cop. She ended up dying in the line of duty when he was 49, affecting Diaz’s mental health until the apocalypse showed up. - Good friends with Chopper, respecting his method of attack.
Glenn R. Pines-Woods (Glenn) Age: 27
Bio:
If there’s anything Glenn R. Pines-Woods was good at, it was taking a hit. That, and having a convoluted family tree. Coming from a long line of people who were incredibly hard to kill, Glenn was born on the border of Canada and the United States, later spending most of his time in the Northern United States with his father. Going from occupation to occupation, Glenn has put himself in danger through the police force, the military, and the wilds of Alaska on one occasion. Every occasion failed to kill Glenn, and at such a young age he almost felt invincible. Of course, fate had other plans, and when the apocalypse came, Glenn’s survival instincts were once again put to the test. Witnessing groups of survivors die over and over, Glenn gladly joined up with Sheriff Bill. He hoped, for once, that the people he was with wouldn’t die all around him.
Charlotte Madrigal (Sheriff Charlotte)
Age: 45
Bio: Born Madeleine Madrigal in the land of Texas, U.S.A, Charlotte was the older daughter of a Farmer from Russia, later the older sister of two twins from the United States (alongside her sister). Early in her life, Charlotte’s family returned to her grandfather’s homeland of Russia, living there for several years. When Charlotte’s family moved to the U.S, she changed her name and became known as the “cool aunt” of the family, being relatively relaxed in contrast to her brothers and parents. Instead of having children, like her sister, Charlotte joined up with law enforcement, helping defend the new country she was living in, and all the time maintaining a youthful appearance despite her ever increasing age. When the apocalypse came along, Charlotte watched her co-workers turn in front of her, shooting them all dead before holding out in the police station for two weeks. When Sheriff Bill came along, Charlotte eagerly joined up, recognising some of her family in the convoy with him. And after spending two weeks alone, she needed the familiar faces.
Notes: - Very patriotic to the United States, especially her home-state of Texas (Charlotte Skin) - Was given a special outfit from her brother when they arrived in the United States once more (Bunny Charlotte Skin) - Fluent in both Russian and English, thanks to her father teaching it to her. - Daughter of the Farmer, and the older sister of adopted brothers Private Rodriguez and Redneck. Aunt of Polina and Cashier.
Julian “Jules” J. Murtaugh & Vincent “Vinny” K. Riggs (Agents)
Age: Unknown, Mid 30s and Late 30s
Bio:
Jules and Vinny have been inseparable since first meeting, for whatever reason. Finding each-other in the same class as kids, they initially had a sort of rivalry before sorting it out in a fight, neither of them winning in the end. Afterwards, the pair held a sort of respect for each-other, that respect eventually forming into a friendship. Spending most of their time in public with each-other, the pair were eventually hired by an unknown organisation, designed to take out anything considered “too dangerous to live”. The pair were on the brink of finding out about a new disease sweeping the globe, all the way down in Papua New Guinea, before finding the trail gone cold. Returning to the United States, the apocalypse was already starting to fall into place. As the pair wandered the streets, taking out zombies with stealth unparalleled, they were eventually picked up by Sheriff Bill on the outskirts of a satellite array.
Notes: - Jules has thalassophobia, a fear of large bodies of water (and the ocean). - Vinny, contrary to his Jules, is a firm atheist. - The pair have used multiple fake aliases on their job, mostly pop culture references.
Matthew Bell (Rogue) Age: 28
Bio: Bell was never one for speaking, not unless it was to berate someone. He was also never one to go off task, unless it was to get revenge on someone. Incredibly objective driven and considered an asset to have in a fight, it’s no surprise Bell became a police officer. Of course, this only lasted for a couple of years before Toxic Lab Military Forces picked him up, offering better equipment and training, alongside a better goal. Bell didn’t hesitate to join, becoming an asset to the group until the infection set in. Abandoned by the rest of the group by accident, Bell took on a nomadic lifestyle, moving from place to place and killing the ever-present dead along the way. He was the last person to join Sheriff Bill’s journey, and well aware that Bill would need the help. Without a word, he joined on. Notes: - Worked as a police officer before joining TMF (Riot Policeman Skin) - Prone to insulting the dead and his fellow survivors, earning him a negative reputation. - Suicidal tactics worry other TMF members (and the doctors) - Doesn’t insult Mechanic, for some reason.
Nathaniel “Austin” Landgrabb (Austin)
Age: 42
Bio: Starting life as a child from a small but poor family, Nathaniel fought tooth and nail to get somewhere in life, becoming a police officer, then a gangster, then somehow a bank manager. Of course, despite his accomplishments, Nathaniel wanted something… more. And so, he turned to a life of crime, gathering a crew of like-minded individuals and robbing various organisations and locations and amassing a wealth of money before suddenly… It all went to hell. After a job supplying a mercenary group with a disease they wanted to turn into a bioweapon, Nathaniel (now going under the nickname “Austin” as a part of the crew) started seeing cases on the news of people being infected with a strange sickness that nobody had heard of before. When the Free Hugs campaign launched, Austin started to notice that the hugs were only spreading the virus faster, and it didn’t take long for him to put two and two together and realise that he may have had something to do with it all. After thorough research in society’s final days, his questions were left unanswered. The bioweapon had been used, although what it was supposed to do even less so, not to mention the infection officially started with a plane crashing into Lamos (which was unlikely to have been involved in the mercenary group’s activities in any way). When the world fell to the infection, Austin eventually found and joined up with Sheriff Bill, wanting both peace of mind and a stop to the infection.
Notes: - Worked as a police officer in his early years (Collector Skin) - Austin’s idea of motivation (shouting loudly) is not appreciated by the rest of Bill’s group much. - Austin has a habit of looting the dead, hoping one day he’ll be able to put the money to use in a new world. - Has started drinking since the apocalypse started.
Oliver Bouchard (Chopper)
Age: 44
Bio: Oliver is a man of stature, size and strength. Mostly size, though. Having protected friends and family since he was a kid, Oliver was seen as a great person and selfless to a fault. However, upon watching his mother die of breast cancer, Oliver fell into a deep depression, letting himself go as he exiled himself to the forests, building a cabin for himself to get things off his mind. When he eventually got it all built and started moving utilities into there, he came home one night to find a young girl sleeping in his bed. When the girl eventually woke up, she was surprised to find Oliver willing to let her stay, and the pair grew close together. When the infection arrived to Oliver’s cabin, him and the girl, Maria, fought their way out of the woods, driving away until they reached a remote, desert town, a stark contrast to the cold woods from prior. There, the pair met Sheriff Bill, joining up with him to destroy the infection once more.
Notes: - Avid fan of Halloween in his younger years, even finding a clown costume to fit him during the apocalypse (Clown Chopper Skin) - Did some farm-work in his early 20s, and was surprisingly good at it (Rural Chopper Skin) - Was a police officer up until his mother died (Mountie Skin) - Protective of Maria, and very friendly towards her. Also gets on well with Diaz.
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2024.03.07 20:02 InverseFlash Respect Solomon Grundy! (DC Comics, Post-Crisis)

What does time mean…to a broken skull? With brains all eaten by…things? See–no, feel–leaves decaying… wood rotting… sticking to bones. All happening… Fast… And above, seasons change fast too… Winterspringsummerfall justlikethat againandagain… Fast… So fast… And then…then everything moves slow again. The voices start again, too…

Born on a Monday... Slaughter Swamp, a putrid bog where criminals and animals fester alike, held the corpse of Cyrus Gold in its waters. Christened on a Tuesday... After years of natural processes, unlife was imbued in the corpse, and it rose from submersion! Married on a Wednesday... The monster ran into a criminal gang who took advantage of his infantile mental capacity, using him for nefarious ends. Took ill on Thursday... From there, he discovered death held no claim on him, and took violent issue with the superheroes trying to bring him down. Worsened on a Friday... Through his many "lives," he took different sides, different intelligences, even performing heroics once or twice. Died on a Saturday... Though he may deep down wish to do well, the evil spirit of the tycoon Cyrus Gold refuses to redeem himself and haunts the monster to this day.
Buried on a Sunday.
That is the tale of Solomon Grundy.
Huge thanks to BlazeRaiden for helping me with the workload!

Key

Scaling (All Post-Crisis (except one))
Weaker Heroes Stronger Heroes Villains
Batman Booster Gold Amazo
Black Canary Captain Marvel/Shazam Bizarro
Cyclone Captain Marvel Jr Bolt
Frankenstein Citizen Steel Icicle
Green Arrow Dr. Fate Joker
Grifter Etrigan Killer Croc
Lead The Flash (Jay Garrick) King Shark
Magog The Flash (Wally West) Parademons
Monolith Green Lantern/Sentinel (Alan Scott) Sting
Mr. Terrific Hawkgirl Thorn
Obsidian Hawkman Wizard
Red Arrow Jade
Sandman (Wesley Dodds) Mary Marvel
Scream Queen Red Tornado
S.H.A.D.E. Steel
Stargirl (Courtney Whitmore) Superman
Starman (Jack Knight) Thor
Starman (Mikaal Tomas)
S.T.R.I.P.E.
Thunderbolt
Wildcat
Character Profiles
Notes
Grundy's rebirths vary wildly as far as feats go. The way the RT has been formatted, each section is an individual "life" of Grundy, with on-panel deaths signifying the end of that incarnation. If Grundy does not die in an appearance, then the following appearances will fall into that section as well until Grundy dies once more. Special, wildly different forms of Grundy have been relegated to the end of the Respect Thread.
Hover over a link to see the issue/run of occurrence.
Solomon Grundy Respect Threads
Pre-Crisis Grundy (Earth-One) / (Earth-Two) Shifting Grundy Smart Grundy Black Lantern Grundy Post-Flashpoint Grundy (maybe?)

General

Reincarnation Rules
Other

Redone Origin

Green Lantern: Brightest Day, Blackest Night (2002)
A new version of his 1944 origin story with a few details changed.
Strength
Durability

1950s

Justice Society of America (1991) #1-8
This Grundy worked as Vandal Savage's lackey when he tried to take on the JSA for control of the constellation titans.
Strength
Lifting
Other
Durability
Blunt
Other
Speed
Other

JLA Year One Encounter

JLA: Year One #2
Grundy was part of a small villain squad (he, Clayface, Thorn, and Eclipso) meant to disband the newly-formed Justice League.
Strength
Other

COIE Aftermath

Infinity Inc. (1984) #35-53; Swamp Thing (1985) #67
Grundy directly following the events of the famous Crisis on Infinite Earths.
Strength
Flexing
Grip
Lifting/Throwing
Striking
Durability
Blunt
Other
Other

Final Showdown with Green Lantern

Green Lantern Corps Quarterly #4
This Grundy was the toughest that Alan Scott ever fought, and required the help of his daughter Jade to bring down.
Strength
Striking
Other
Durability

"One Night in Slaughter Swamp"

Batman: Shadow of the Bat #39
A year after Alan Scott and Jade petrified Grundy, they laid the wooden zombie to rest in Slaughter Swamp (kind of stupid). Grundy returned to unliving to terrorize a group of people touring the swamp when Batman heard of the monster's rebirth.
Strength
Durability
Speed

Splash

Batman: Hidden Treasures (2010)
One of Batman's first encounters with Grundy, he decides to dispense his own form of justice to stop a serial killer.

The Long Halloween

Batman: The Long Halloween (1996); Batman: Dark Victory (1999)
This Grundy, while still violent and angry, befriended Two-Face in Gotham's sewers after the ex-D.A. was hideously wounded in an acid attack.
Strength
Striking
Other
Durability
Blunt
Other
Other

Long Halloween v2

Batman: The Long Halloween (1996) Special
After dying to the Batcave's defense system when Grundy ordered him to by Two-Face, Grundy came back and was still working for Dent. I guess he's not really known for being smart.

Solly

Starman (1994) #10-34
A year after his encounter with Batman (Long Halloween), Grundy returned to life a new man, much more tempered in disposition. He wandered into the sewers of Opal City, where Jade heard of rumors about him and asked Starman to look after him.
Strength
Durability

Distant Planet

Starman (1994) #48-49
This Grundy was the corpse of one that Alan Scott launched into deep space in his golden days, reanimated by the ambient Green left behind from Swamp Thing's stay on the planet.

Post-Solly

Stars and S.T.R.I.P.E. #4; Starman (1994) #65-71
This Grundy was ordered to kill the Marvel family. Not sure why his boss picked him. Then he worked for Shade when the villain pulled a Simpsons Movie on Opal City.
Strength
Durability
Blunt
Esoteric
Speed

Jokerized

Joker: Last Laugh #3; JSA (1999) #29
When Joker infects the world in a last gambit, Grundy was one of the villains who took on a smile.
Strength
Durability

Post-Last Laugh

JSA (1999) #65
Grundy came back after Joker's shenanigans.

Green Arrow Encounter

Green Arrow (2001) #17, 18
Green Arrow's Arrowcave found a new tenant when it fell into disuse.
Strength
Durability
Speed

Green Arrow Encounter, Round 2

Green Arrow (2001) #53
Ever the dutiful superhero, Oliver decided against his better judgment that the Grundy problem needed to be resolved when Chrissie Cavendish, a woman claiming to be the great-great-grandson of Cyrus Gold, begged him to help her save him (she was lying).
Strength
Durability

Memorial Day

Superman (1939) #676
A one-off encounter that may or may not end with Grundy dying?
Strength
Durability

Superman/Batman

Superman/Batman (2003)
This section is for the Grundy who appears across the long-running Superman/Batman series. Feats marked [Army] refer to an army of Grundys controlled by the Creeper. While Black Lantern Grundy does appear in this series, he fits better in his own section.

Misc Appearances

JLA/Avengers #4; Two-Face: Year One #2; DC/WS: DreamWar #5; JSA: All Stars (2003) #1; Hawkman (2002) #33; Supergirl (2005) #1; Villains United #6; JSA: Classified #5-7, 32, 35; Justice #4, 10-11; Salvation Run #7; Booster Gold (2007) #13; Trinity #32; Justice Society of America (2007) #50; JSA 80-Page Giant 2011; Batman 80-Page Giant 2011
There's a long stretch of comics where Grundy never dies on-panel until Salvation Run. A few comics are taken from after that point because, narratively, they don't fit anywhere else.
Strength
Grip
Lifting/Throwing
Striking
Objective
Scaling
Durability
Blunt
Esoteric
Piercing
Other

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2023.12.22 16:03 jaysornotandhawks 4 days until the World Juniors! // 4 years ago was the 2020 WJC...

See previous countdown posts: 1974 / 1975 / 1976 / 1977 / 1978 / 1979 / 1980 / 1981 / 1982 / 1983 / 1984 / 1985 / 1986 / 1987 / 1988 / 1989 / 1990 / 1991 / 1992 / 1993 / 1994 / 1995 / 1996 / 1997 / 1998 / 1999 / 2000 / 2001 / 2002 / 2003 / 2004 / 2005 / 2006 / 2007 / 2008 / 2009 / 2010 / 2011 / 2012 / 2013 / 2014 / 2015 / 2016 / 2017 / 2018 / 2019
Sources: IIHF G&R / Official Tournament Site
Hello again, Charlie.
The 2020 World Junior Hockey Championship took place in Ostrava and Trinec, Czechia, from December 26, 2019 - January 5, 2020. The logo was modelled after Petr Mrazek, who, if you remember, took the 2012 WJC by storm with his celebrations. This particular one was a celebration he had during the game against the United States.
Games were played at Ostravar Arena in Ostrava, and Werk Arena in Trinec.
Groups: Based on previous year's finish. Click on a country for their roster.
Group A (Werk Arena): Group B (Ostravar Arena):
(1) Finland (2) United States
(4) Switzerland (3) Russia
(5) Sweden (6) Canada
(8) Slovakia (7) Czechia
(9) Kazakhstan (10) Germany
Preliminary Round: Times ET.
Date 09:00 (Group A) 09:00 (Group B) 13:00 (Group A) 13:00 (Group B)
Dec 26 SUI 5, KAZ 3 CZE 4, RUS 3 SWE 3, FIN 2 (OT) CAN vs USA...
Dec 27 SVK 3, KAZ 1 USA 6, GER 3
Dec 28 FIN 8, SVK 1 GER 4, CZE 3 SWE 5, SUI 2 RUS 6, CAN 0
Dec 29 FIN 7, KAZ 1 USA 3, RUS 1
Dec 30 SWE 6, KAZ 2 CAN 4, GER 1 SUI 7, SVK 2 USA 4, CZE 3 (OT)
Dec 31 SWE 6, SVK 2 RUS 6, GER 1 SUI 5, FIN 2 CAN 7, CZE 2
CZE-RUS:
CAN-USA:
The Group B Circle of Suck:
USA-CZE:
CAN-CZE:
Standings - Group A:
Rank Country Wins OTW OTL Losses Points GD (GF-GA)
1 Sweden 3 1 0 0 11 +12 (20-8)
2 Switzerland 3 0 0 1 9 +7 (19-12)
3 Finland 2 0 1 1 7 +9 (19-10)
4 Slovakia 1 0 0 3 3 -14 (8-22)
5 Kazakhstan 0 0 0 4 0 -14 (7-21)
Standings - Group B:
Rank Country Wins OTW OTL Losses Points GD (GF-GA)
1 Canada 3 0 0 1 9 +4 (17-13)
2 United States 2 1 0 1 8 +4 (17-13)
3 Russia 2 0 0 2 6 +8 (16-8)
4 Czechia 1 0 1 2 4 -6 (12-18)
5 Germany 1 0 0 3 3 -10 (9-19)
Relegation Series - Kazakhstan vs Germany - Ostrava
Format Change:
While quarterfinal matchups were still A1-B4, A2-B3, B2-A3, B1-A4, this was the first year that reseeding came into the picture at IIHF tournaments.
On the men's side, teams are seeded 1-8 based on the following criteria...
  1. Position of the group
  2. Number of points
  3. Goal differential
  4. Number of goals scored
  5. Seeding entering the tournament (see group chart above)
I say "men's" because at the Women's World Championship, and the U18 Women's World Championship from 2020-23, because the groups were already tiered, Group A received the higher seeds and Group B the lower.
The highest ranked team to win their quarterfinal would play the lowest, as would the two middle teams.
With this in mind, this was the seed order entering the quarterfinals:
  1. Sweden (1st place in group, 11 points)
  2. Canada (1st place, 9 points)
  3. Switzerland (2nd place, 9 points)
  4. United States (2nd place, 8 points)
  5. Finland (3rd place, 7 points)
  6. Russia (3rd place, 6 points)
  7. Czechia (4th place, 4 points)
  8. Slovakia (4th place, 3 points)
Quarterfinals - January 2
QF Game Time (ET) Venue Matchup Result
QF #1 06:30 Werk Arena (A2) SUI vs (B3) RUS Russia 3, Switzerland 1
QF #2 09:00 Ostravar Arena (B1) CAN vs (A4) SVK Canada 6, Slovakia 1
QF #3 11:30 Werk Arena (B2) USA vs (A3) FIN Finland 1, USA 0
QF #4 14:00 Ostravar Arena (A1) SWE vs (B4) CZE Sweden 5, Czechia 0
Semifinals - January 4 - Ostrava
Medal Day - January 5 - Ostrava
Wait... who won gold?
Final Standings:
  1. Canada (18th gold)
  2. Russia (10th silver; 13th including URS)
  3. Sweden (6th bronze)
  4. Finland
  5. Switzerland
  6. United States
  7. Czechia
  8. Slovakia
  9. Germany
  10. Kazakhstan
Scoring Leaders:
Rank Player Country Goals Assists Points
1 Samuel Fagemo Sweden 8 5 13
2 Barrett Hayton Canada 6 6 12
3 Nils Hoglander Sweden 5 6 11
4 Alexis Lafreniere Canada 4 6 10
5 Rasmus Sandin Sweden 3 7 10
6 Grigori Denisenko Russia 3 6 9
T7 Dylan Cozens Canada 2 7 9
T7 Kristian Tanus Finland 2 7 9
9 Calen Addison Canada 1 8 9
10 Trevor Zegras United States 0 9 9
11 Dominik Bokk Germany 6 2 8
12 Patrick Puistola Finland 5 3 8
13 Alexander Khovanov Russia 3 5 8
14 Nikita Alexandrov Russia 2 6 8
15 Nils Lundkvist Sweden 1 7 8
Goaltending Leaders: Must have played at least 40% of the team's total ice time. Ranked by Save Percentage. All goalies with that 40% TOI, plus a 90+% save percentage, are listed here.
Rank Goaltender Country Minutes GAA Save % Shutouts
1 Joel Hofer Canada 337:42 1.60 93.92 (139/148) 1
2 Hugo Alnefelt Sweden 368:19 2.12 92.40 (158/171) 1
3 Amir Miftakhov Russia 197:50 2.12 91.86 (79/86) 1
4 Justus Annunen Finland 362:01 2.65 91.58 (174/190) 1
5 Spencer Knight United States 241:26 2.49 91.30 (105/115) 0
6 Hendrik Hane Germany 337:38 2.49 90.79 (138/152) 2
Directorate Awards:
Media Al Star Team:
All Directorate Award Winners, plus:
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2023.12.20 19:30 lollipopdeath Top-Rated 2023 Dramas on Douban (Part 2): Mysterious Lotus Casebook, Ripe Town, Nothing But You, Fake It Till You Make It, Thirteen Years of Dust, I Am Nobody and Where to Watch Them

Top-Rated 2023 Dramas on Douban (Part 2): Mysterious Lotus Casebook, Ripe Town, Nothing But You, Fake It Till You Make It, Thirteen Years of Dust, I Am Nobody and Where to Watch Them
This is Part 2 of the Top-Rated Chinese Drama on Douban in 2023. This thread is personally curated by myself (with the help of this 2023 cdrama releases list on Douban) and the highlighted dramas are those boasting a score of at least 8.0 and rated by over 100,000 people. The first part has been written and it includes the dramas ranked #1-6; I purposely divide them to prevent the thread from becoming excessively lengthy. Hope you'll enjoy this thread!

Mysterious Lotus Casebook Score: 8.5 (Rated by 579k+)

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Episodes: 40 (Duration: 45 min.) Weibo Genre: Wuxia, Investigation, Mystery Where to Watch: iQiyi, WeTV
Mysterious Lotus Casebook (莲花楼) is a Chinese television series adapted from the novel Auspicious Pattern Lotus House (吉祥纹莲花楼) by Teng Ping that is produced by H&R Century Pictures and iQiyi. It is directed by Guo Hu (One and Only, Immortal Samsara) and Ren Haitao (Love and Destiny), with Liu Fang, Li Hui Min, Cheng Yu, and Wang Wei as the screenwriters. It stars Cheng Yi, Zeng Shunxi, and Xiao Shunyao in the leading roles along with other casts such as Chen Duling, Wang Herun, Chen Yihan, and more. The series premiered exclusively on iQiyi on July 23, 2023, and was broadcast on CCTV-8 on August 6.
Synopsis
A decade ago, Li Xiangyi (Cheng Yi), the master of the Si Gu sect, reigned supreme with his Xiangyi Taosword, serving as a beacon of righteousness for the martial arts world. However, following a scheduled duel with the Jin Yuan alliance leader, Di Feisheng (Xiao Shunyao), on the Eastern Sea, both highly skilled martial artists disappeared amidst the vast, azure waves. Consequently, both the Si Gu sect and the Jin Yuan alliance suffered devastating defeats, gradually fading away from the martial world. Ten years later, Li Lianhua, a countryside itinerant doctor who maneuvers with a Lotus Tower, inadvertently acquires the title of a famous doctor. Despite initially having no desire to get involved in the martial world, he inevitably finds himself wrapped up in its affairs.
An impulsive young man named Fang Duobing (Zeng Shunxi), who dreams of upholding justice and instilling peace, suspects that there's more to li Lianhua than meets the eye and vows to expose his impersonation as a renowned doctor. Di Feisheng, on re-emerging into the martial world and always considering Li Xiangyi as his formidable adversary, recognizes the seemingly inconspicuous wandering doctor, Li Lianhua, as Li Xiangyi and naturally can't let him off easily. Through a series of incidents, this trio unexpectedly forms a formidable bond amidst their constant laughing, quarreling, and case-solving. No longer detached from the world's affairs, Li Lianhua and Di Feisheng, led by the zealous and duty-bound youth Fang Duobing, rekindle their passionate spirits. Joining forces to fight, they collectively crack the martial world's extraordinary cases, restoring justice and righteousness to the world.
Awards & Nomination
Awards Category Nominee(s) Result
19th Chinese American Film Festival (2023) Outstanding Actor Cheng Yi Won
Top 10 Golden Angel Award TV Series of the Year Mysterious Lotus Casebook Won
2023 iQIYI Scream Night Most Influential Actor of the Year Cheng Yi Won
Most Influential VIP Drama of the Year Mysterious Lotus Casebook Won
Hall of Honor Mysterious Lotus Casebook Won
Weibo TV & Internet Video Summit 2023 Awards Most Expressive Actor of the Year Cheng Yi Won
Breakthrough & Innovative Works of the Year Mysterious Lotus Casebook W
Tidbits
  • The filming took place in Hengdian from June to October 2022.
  • Due to its immense popularity, Mysterious Lotus Casebook held a live concert and fan meeting on September 16th, 2023. Cheng Yi, Zeng Shunxi, Xiao Shunyao, Chen Duling, Wang Herun, and Chen Yihan were in attendance.
  • Cheng Yi personally voiced the character of Li Lanhua, whereas Chen Zhang Tai Kang (who also voiced Tian Yao in Back From The Brink) lent his voice to Li Xiangyi.
You might want to check out: A master list of Mysterious Lotus Casebook discussions + the final episode thread.

Ripe Town Score: 8.5 (Rated by 146k+)

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Episodes: 12 (Duration: 44-101 min.) Weibo Genre: Historical, Investigation, Suspense Where to Watch: WeTV, Viki
Ripe Town (繁城之下) is a Chinese original television series produced by Tencent Penguin Pictures. It is written and directed by Wang Zheng and stars Bai Yufan, Ning Li, Xiang Hanzhi, and Liu Yitong, along with Zhang Haowei, Zeng Li, Cao Zheng, Wang Ce, Zhang Xilin, and others. The series premiered exclusively on Tencent Video on October 13, 2023. It is a part of Tencent X Theater.
Synopsis
During the reign of Emperor Wanli (1572-1620) of the Ming Dynasty, the region of Jiangnan is turned upside down by a gruesome spate of killings. The murderer leaves corpses in strange poses, leaving cryptic notes as “clues” at the scene of the crime each time. To make matters even more mysterious, the victims all appear unconnected with one another – although the killer seems to be the same person in each instance.
The disciple of the first victim of this serial killer is a young man named Qu San Geng (Bai Yu Fan). With the assistance of a small group of associates, he endeavors to uncover the truth behind the murders. However, as they delve into the investigation, incidents from a decade ago resurface. Additionally, there are indications that a mysterious and malevolent puppet master is orchestrating events from behind the scenes. Can Qu San Geng locate and halt the killer, solving the mystery in the process?
Awards & Nomination
Award Category Nominee(s) Result
Tencent Video Golden Penguin Awards 2023 Outstanding Director of the Year Wang Zheng Won
Best Art of the Year Ripe Town Won
Tidbits
  • The filming took place in Hengdian from March to June 2022.
  • In a scene where the character rides a donkey, Ning Li developed a "leaning" riding technique and diligently practiced it in preparation.
  • By modifying the breathing pattern, rhythm, and adjusting the pace of speech and punctuation, Ning Li elevated the naturalness of Song Chen's dialogue in the series.
  • The closing theme of the series, titled "宴" is sung by Ning Li, with the harmony sections composed and performed by Ning Li's daughter.
You might want to check out: Ripe Town Masterpost, and Visual Analysis: Ripe Town - Under the Cover of Light (Episode 1) by u/nydevon.

Nothing But You Score: 8.2 (Rated by 146k+)

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Episodes: 38 (Duration: 45 min.) Weibo Genre: Urban, Romance, Sports Where to Watch: WeTV, Viki, iQiyi
Nothing But You (爱情而已) is a Chinese original television series produced by Linmon Pictures. Directed by Chen Chang (Dating in the Kitchen) with Zhang Yingji (Nothing But Thirty) as the screenwriter. Starring Wu Lei and Zhou Yutong in the lead roles, the series also casts Zhu Yongteng, Zhang Tao, Xia Haoran, Ma Fanding, Li Qing, Ma Baiquan, Gao Mingchen, with special appearances by Tu Songyan and Guo Keyu, the show premiered on March 27, 2023, on CCTV-8 and was simultaneously broadcast on Tencent Video.
Synopsis
Song Sang Chuan (Wu Lei) is a budding tennis player in his twenties. He used to play badminton, but has recently turned his attention to tennis after his career stalled. Liang You An (Zhou Yutong), meanwhile, is a professional woman in her thirties. Her own career has also taken an unexpected turn – and she decides to take up tennis at a new club in a bid to make a change in her life. She happens to join the same club as Song Sang Chuan.
Song Sang Chuan is instantly smitten with Liang You An – despite the fact that he is 10 years her junior. He tries every trick in the book to woo her, but she is very skeptical of his advances, as she is concerned that he is far too young for her. But over time, she comes to learn that his intentions are pure – and that his feelings for her are genuine. While many people around her express scorn, she starts to wonder if she might just fall for this passionate young athlete.
Awards & Nomination
Award Category Nominee(s) Result
2022-2023 Weibo Comprehensive Influence Ranking for Modern Drama Series Nothing But You #8
Weibo TV & Internet Video Summit 2023 Awards Audience's Favorite Works of The Year Nothing But You Won
Tidbits
  • The filming took place from May to September 2022.
  • Because there were many scenes shot on the field, Wu Lei barely used makeup for most parts (he mentioned that it would melt due to the heat and sweat).
  • Wu Lei underwent two months of training in tennis and badminton with a professional coach as part of his role preparation. He explained that since he is portraying a professional athlete, although he cannot fully replicate their professional movements and condition, he aimed to immerse himself in their mindset. Zhou Yutong also worked at the Tencent Shenzhen office to gain firsthand experience in the day-to-day responsibilities of Executive Assistants.
  • Wu Lei studied Rafael Nadal's matches and playing style in his role preparation as well because he considered Nadal a resilient player, and since Song Sanchuan's transition from badminton to tennis in his athletic career was marked by numerous setbacks and comebacks, it was clear that a similar level of resilience was indispensable (according to him).
You might want to check out: What’s your first impression of Nothing But You? by u/dramaenjoyer, and Nothing But You Final Discussion thread.

Fake It Till You Make It Score: 8.1 (Rated by 126k+)

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Episodes: 14 (Duration: 1hr10min.) Weibo Genre: Urban, Romance, Workplace Where to Watch: Viki, YouTube & MGTV (warning: the sub is awful in Mango & YT)
Fake It Till You Make It (装腔启示录) is a Chinese television series adapted from Liu Cuihu's novel Apocalypse. Produced by Hunan and Mango TV, the series is directed by Li Mo (Remembrance of Things Past) with Lang Qun Li and Li Tao serving as the screenwriter. Starring Cai Wenjing and Han Dongjun in the lead roles, alongside other cast members like Bao Shangen, Dai Yunfan, Li Yuan, Jiang Shimeng, and more, the show premiered on August 18, 2023, on Hunan TV and Mango TV.
Synopsis
Tang Ying (Elvira Cai) is a junior lawyer who works at a Beijing-based legal firm. While taking a flight on a business trip, she falls asleep. A wealthy young investor named Xu Zi Quan (Han Dongjun) is also on the plane, where she overhears him talking about how he never travels in economy class, but is willing to do so on this occasion as he has no other choice. She thinks he is arrogant and pretentious. He asks a flight attendant to give Tang Ying a blanket and tries talking to her, but she is suspicious of his motives, taking him for a playboy. Their paths cross again shortly after, and Xu Zi Quan realizes that he is falling for her.
Meanwhile, things are not going smoothly for Tang Ying at work, where she is forced to take the wrap for mistakes she didn’t make. Soon after, she meets a wealthy older man named Ma Qi Yuan (Geng Le) who lives in Europe. He falls for Tang Ying, and wants to capture her heart. But Xu Zi Quan still wants to win Tang Ying’s heart – and will do whatever it takes to make her fall for him!
Tidbits
  • Filming took place in Beijing in Q4 2022.
  • The original author of the novel, Liu Cuihu, is a graduate of Peking University Law School and has worked in law firms within Beijing's Red Circle. With firsthand experience in high-pressure environments at top-tier law firms in China, Liu Cuihu brings their perspective to the narrative. Additionally, director Li Mo also embarked on a diverse career path, undertaking various roles such as video editing, composing, planning, scriptwriting, working in an advertising agency, shooting commercials, producing promotional videos, and assistant directing before ascending to the role of director. For further insights, see the Director Notes.
  • To capture the exaggerated mannerisms of the "Big Boss," Jiang Shimeng prepared an entire box of cups in advance, ensuring that each distinct beverage for the "Big Boss" had its specially matched cup. In Jiang Shimeng's perspective, the "Big Boss" appeared three-dimensional and complete, reflecting the complexity of human nature.
  • Before filming this drama, Han Dongjun specifically consulted with friends working in investment banking around him. He discovered that they often experience significant work pressure and, in private, have hobbies to help them relax. As a result, he gave the character Xu Ziqiang a personal interest in motorcycles. (Which is also Han Dongjun's hobby)
  • Unaware of the planned adjustment for a kissing scene on set, Bao Shangen had already eaten spicy snacks. Upon learning about the situation, she promptly informed Dai Yunfan and took the necessary time before shooting to thoroughly rinse her mouth and use mint candy.

Thirteen Years of Dust Score: 8.1 (Rated by 130k+)

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Episodes: 24 (Duration: 45min.) Weibo Genre: Crime, Mystery, Drama Where to Watch: iQiyi
Thirteen Years of Dust (尘封十三载) is a Chinese television series adapted from Lou Xiaopeng's novel, The Light of the Dark Night, produced by iQiyi. As part of iQiyi Light On's series, it is directed by Liu Haibo, with Lou Xiaopeng, the original author, serving as the screenwriter. The cast includes Chen Jianbin, Chen Xiao, Chuo Ni, Liu Mintao, Zuo Xiaoqing, Wang Xiao, and more and it exclusively premiered on iQiyi on April 6, 2023.
Synopsis
The series tells the story of a series of serial killings that occurred in Nandu thirteen years ago. In 1997, the special murder case that was not solved at the time resurfaces after thirteen years. The detective who had never found the real culprit at that time, Wei Zhengrong (Chen Jianbin), is deeply affected and leaves the front line. Meanwhile, the once inexperienced rookie detective, Lu Xingzhi (Chen Xiao), has become a meticulous and detail-oriented crime-solving expert. The coincidences of the case bring the master and apprentice back together to jointly pursue the real culprit.
Awards and Nominations
Award Category Nominee(s) Result
2023 iQiyi Scream Night Outstanding Drama of the Year Thirteen Years of Dust Won
14th Macau International Television Festival Golden Lotus Award for Best TV Series Thirteen Years of Dust Nominated
Golden Lotus Award for Best Screenplay Lou Xiaopeng Nominated
Tidbits
  • To depict the dual timeline setting in the series and synchronize with the actual seasons, the production team deliberately chose to film scenes set in 1997 and 2010 during winter and summer, respectively.
  • To accentuate the aging process over 13 years, Chen Xiao willingly requested the removal of his receding hairline and temple hair to enhance a weathered appearance.
  • Veteran actor Niu Piao shed 20 kilograms within a few months to highlight character differences,
  • The styling director immersed themselves in the streets of Chongqing, observing the images of ordinary locals to craft makeup and styling for each actor that captured both the mountain city's temperament and the characters' personality traits.
  • To elicit authentic anger from fellow actors during scenes, Chen Jianbin, without warning, abruptly entered a room where the other actor was unprepared, allowing the actor to channel the broken anger instantly into the character, creating exceptionally authentic emotions in the scene.
  • Initially brought in as a singer by the producer, Wang Xiaokun coincidentally suited the role of a rock youth in the series. Given his past acquaintance with Chen Xiao, he ended up making a guest appearance.
You might want to check out: Thirteen Years of Dust by u/Persuasionn

I Am Nobody Score: 8.1 (Rated by 98k+)

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Episodes: 27 (Duration: 45min.) Weibo Genre: Comedy, Fantasy, Adventure Where to Watch: Youku
I Am Nobody (异人之下) is a Chinese live-action drama adaptation of The Outcast/Under One Person by Mi Er that is produced by Youku. Directed by Derek Hui (Cross Fire), with Jiang Feng as the screenwriter, the series features Peng Yuchang, Hou Minghao, Wang Yinglu, Wang Xueqi, Bi Wenjun, Jiang Peiyao, and more in the cast and premiered exclusively on Youku on August 4, 2023.
Synopsis
Zhang Chulan (Peng Yuchang), an ordinary young man, gets entangled in an unprecedented world of "outsiders" when his grandfather's body mysteriously disappears. Facing unexpected pursuit from the Sinister Pleasure, a relentless organization, and the sudden appearance of an enigmatic girl Feng Baobao (Wang Yinglu), Zhang Chulan decides to no longer hide his superpower.
As Zhang delves into his grandfather's past, he gradually becomes part of the world of outsiders, where the mysteries of history start to unravel. Behind it all lies a shocking secret, and Feng's mysterious origins seem to hold the key to the truth.
The young outsiders fight shoulder to shoulder to overcome the challenges and become friends who have each other's back. On their journey of growth, each one searches for their sense of righteousness, while a battle between good and evil looms on the horizon.
Award Category Nominee(s) Result
The Sixth Original Aspiration List Top Five Young Directors of the Year Derek Hui Won
Weibo TV & Internet Video Summit 2023 Awards Annual Breakthrough and Innovative Works of the Year I Am Nobody Won
You might want to check out: I Am Nobody (异人之下) is a really good live action adaptation of The Outcast by u/Double_Suit3097, I Am Nobody (异人之下) Differences from Animation by u/ihd1234567890, and I Am Nobody Mega Discussion thread.

2023 Dramas that Scored 7.5~8 & Rated by <50,000

Title Genre Starring Score No. of Reviewers
Be With You Mystery, Comedy, Wuxia Xie Xingyang, Su Mengdi 8.6 71k+
The Heart Medical, Drama, Urban Mark Chao, Mao Xiaotong, Lin Shijia 8.4 64k+
A Long Way Home Drama, Slice of life, Rural Guo Tao, Zhang Wanyi 8.3 53k+
Legend of the Undercover Chef Comedy, Wuxia Zhao Benshan, Song Xiaobao 8.2 85k+
There Will Be Ample Time Drama, Slice of Life, Friendship Ren Suxi, Li Xueqin, Shi Ce, Wang Zixuan 8.2 50k+
Ray of Light Youth, School, Drama Guo Jingfei, Ren Min, Wang Yuan 8.0 82k+
When I Fly Towards You Youth, Romance, School Zhou Yiran, Zhang Miaoyi 7.9 106k+
The Queen of NEWS (Hong Kong) Business, Drama Charmaine Sheh, Kenneth Ma, Selena Lee, Samantha Ko 7.8 103k+
Fearless Blood Republican, Drama Dong Zijian, Zhang Yi, Zhang Luyi, Tong Liya 7.9 64k+
Young Blood 2 Action, Historical, Mystery Zhang Xincheng, Zhou Yutong, Wang Yushou, Su Xiaotong 7.9 61k+
Lost You Forever Romance, Drama, Xianxia Yang Zi, Zhang Wanyi, Tan Jianci, Deng Wei 7.8 376k+
Under the Microscope Thriller, Historical, Mystery Zhang Ruoyun, Wang Yang, Qi Wei 7.8 132k+
Why Try to Change Me Now Suspense, Crime Dong Zijian, Hai Qing, Qiu Tian 7.6 66k+
Falling Before Fireworks Romance Lu Yangyang, Chen Xinhai 7.6 55k+
Where Dream Begins/The Youth Memories Romance, Slice of Life, Youth, Drama Xiao Zhan, Li Qin 7.5 305k+
Imperfect Victim Mystery, Law, Drama Zhou Xun, Liu Yijun, Lin Yun 7.5 77k+
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Note: I know that including I Am Nobody was kind of a sneak since it hasn't reached 100k yet, but it is so, so, close so please spare me for adding the title to the list. To reiterate my note from another thread: know that I'm not sharing this to boast that these are the absolute best of 2023. If you find these "top-rated shows on Douban" as impressive as others do, that's wonderful. I'm simply highlighting the highest-rated dramas on Douban, some of which I've personally watched and believe deserve their high ratings, if not more, just in case you missed them in the hope that you find some of the top-rated dramas enjoyable. But I get that everyone's experience and impression of dramas could differ and it's okay if these top-rated dramas don't really cater to you even if you tried (though I really hope you'll give them a chance!). Last but not least, thank you for taking the time to read my thread!
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2023.12.14 20:45 PublicReach8391 Comparing the Cavs situation with Garland and Mitchell to past use cases

I posted this in nba, I figured I would post it in here too. Let me know what you think.
If anyone has had a chance to watch the Cavs this year, you can tell something is not clicking with their offense. The team seems inconsistent and hard to watch, with a lot of iso ball (and that’s with Lavert hurt). Their two star guards, Donovan Mitchell and Darius Garland, have struggled to perform together in a way that produces consistent winning basketball. While their individual stats are still good (Garland 20.8 ppg and 6.1 apg; Mitchell 27.4 ppg 5.7 rpg, and 5.1 apg), the team is struggling as a whole. The Cavs currently rank 24th in offensive rating and AST/To%. To try and improve this, many fans and pundits are clamoring for a change. While many believe it has to do with the coach (which I don’t necessarily disagree with), the solution may be more with roster construction.
The two use cases that come to mind when examining two ball dominant guards in the same lineup are Curry/Ellis for the early 2010 warriors, and Paul/Harden for the mid to late 2010’s Rockets.
As for Curry/Ellis, the two played 2 and half years together from 2009 to the middle of the 2011-2012 with minimal team success. Eventually the Warriors traded Ellis, and built around Curry’s strengths. The team saw having two ball dominant guards was not going to work going forward, so they traded away Ellis, the older and less efficient of the two (Ellis averaged around 20 ppg on 45/35/75 splits, while Curry averaged around 17 on 48/44/88 splits). It also helped they drafted Klay Thompson in 2011, the year they traded Ellis.
As for Paul/Harden and the rockets, this shows a use case that was a resounding success, and even took arguably the greatest team ever assembled to its brink. The difference here is:
A.) Harden and Paul are better players than Ellis (no offense Monta, but they’re both hall of fame players) B.) the rockets played four out on offense utilizing big men who could shoot to stretch the floor (I.e. Ryan Anderson, Trevor Ariza, pj tucker (pj actually shot 37%, not as bad expected)
Comparing both use cases to Cleveland’s current situation:
While I don’t have a great answer to solve the dilemma presented, I will conclude that keeping the status quo will result in middling finishes and uninspired offense. I will leave the team building to Koby Altman.
P.S. if you’re going out drinking and you need to get home, call an UbeLyft/taxi
https://apnews.com/article/koby-altman-cavaliers-dui-body-camera-footage-21e884bc55a374b8199b614e0a317b1e
End of rant. Stats were derived from nba.com and basketball reference
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2023.12.14 20:43 PublicReach8391 Comparing the current Cavs situation with Garland and Mitchell to past use cases.

If anyone has had a chance to watch the Cavs this year, you can tell something is not clicking with their offense. The team seems inconsistent and hard to watch, with a lot of iso ball (and that’s with Lavert hurt). Their two star guards, Donovan Mitchell and Darius Garland, have struggled to perform together in a way that produces consistent winning basketball. While their individual stats are still good (Garland 20.8 ppg and 6.1 apg; Mitchell 27.4 ppg 5.7 rpg, and 5.1 apg), the team is struggling as a whole. The Cavs currently rank 24th in offensive rating and AST/To%. To try and improve this, many fans and pundits are clamoring for a change. While many believe it has to do with the coach (which I don’t necessarily disagree with), the solution may be more with roster construction.
The two use cases that come to mind when examining two ball dominant guards in the same lineup are Curry/Ellis for the early 2010 warriors, and Paul/Harden for the mid to late 2010’s Rockets.
As for Curry/Ellis, the two played 2 and half years together from 2009 to the middle of the 2011-2012 with minimal team success. Eventually the Warriors traded Ellis, and built around Curry’s strengths. The team saw having two ball dominant guards was not going to work going forward, so they traded away Ellis, the older and less efficient of the two (Ellis averaged around 20 ppg on 45/35/75 splits, while Curry averaged around 17 on 48/44/88 splits). It also helped they drafted Klay Thompson in 2011, the year they traded Ellis.
As for Paul/Harden and the rockets, this shows a use case that was a resounding success, and even took arguably the greatest team ever assembled to its brink. The difference here is:
A.) Harden and Paul are better players than Ellis (no offense Monta, but they’re both hall of fame players) B.) the rockets played four out on offense utilizing big men who could shoot to stretch the floor (I.e. Ryan Anderson, Trevor Ariza, pj tucker (pj actually shot 37%, not as bad expected)
Comparing both use cases to Cleveland’s current situation:
While I don’t have a great answer to solve the dilemma presented, I will conclude that keeping the status quo will result in middling finishes and uninspired offense. I will leave the team building to Koby Altman.
P.S. if you’re going out drinking and you need to get home, call an UbeLyft/taxi
https://apnews.com/article/koby-altman-cavaliers-dui-body-camera-footage-21e884bc55a374b8199b614e0a317b1e
End of rant. Stats were derived from nba.com and basketball reference
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2023.08.02 09:21 ar_david_hh Minister's mysterious trip to Meghri Iskander vs Azeri airport Armenia importing "Indian HIMARS" & French weapons $100m for domestic mil. industry Draft never stopped during war Samvel Babayan's plan Nagorno-Karabakh's secret negotiation Little-known clashes before July

wartime defense minister Davit Tonoyan was questioned by War Commission

Tonoyan has been in jail for two years. He is accused of knowingly delivering "bad" missiles, an accusation he denies.

... your location on the eve of the war?

TONOYAN: I was in a NATO country to discuss the import of weapons. On the 27th I arrived in Kazakhstan to also discuss a weapons deal. Because of COVID, it took me 3 hours to find a jet to return.
I encountered difficulties during the flight. My jet was forced to enter Armenia through Georgia. I landed on the 28th and visited the "bunker" headquarters in Nagorno-Karabakh.

... describe the bunker, who can get there?

TONOYAN: The bunker has multiple rooms including areas for outsiders without a security clearance. There were also special rooms with information designed to mislead the opponent. The room where secret decisions were made was not accessible to outsiders. You may have seen images of outsiders in the bunker but they weren't present during classified meetings.

... who is Patron Davo?

TONOYAN: A magician who used land and air routes to make weapons appear in Armenia.

... Turkish airforce

TONOYAN: Turkey sent its F-16 jets to Azerbaijan in July 2020 for military drills. They remained in Azerbaijan afterward. And the fact they were stationed so close to Nagorno-Karabakh was concerning.
Every day, around 4 jets would spend 4-8 hours in the air and fly just 25 km from Nagorno-Karabakh. They had a rotation schedule. The jets were flying so close that they would occasionally trigger the air defense systems. We could shoot them down but Russia discouraged any "provocations".

... describe Turkey's involvement in the war

TONOYAN: They were a direct participant, not even a "proxy". Their F-16 jets exposed our entire air-defense system. Turkish airforce is considered quite developed even within NATO because they were one of the first to develop a unified command & intel system within the airforce. This, in turn, was connected to NATO's command & observation system. What that meant for our army can be discussed behind closed doors.

... Armenian drones

TONOYAN: We entered the war with only 6 aircraft-style drones. Nothing substantial was accomplished by the domestic mil. industry.

... is it true that Israel planned to sell drones to Armenia?

TONOYAN: No. There were attempts by private entities to make arrangements but it didn't work because Israel had very large weapons contracts with Azerbaijan.

... did you modify the Serj-era weapons purchase plan to lower the priority of drones and TOR?

TONOYAN: No. This perception was formed due to a lack of knowledge. No weapons have "substituted" others, and no weapons were given "priority" over others. There was an effort to supplement the [Serj-era] list, to acquire more than what was planned. [corraborates with claims made by Artsrun Hovhannisyan and Pashinyan]
For example, the number of air-defense units that we acquired was 20% greater than what was envisaged under the original plan.

... OSA-AK air-defense

COMMISSION: Is the opposition wrong in their accusations that the Pashinyan administration came and suspended Serj's plans to acquire certain weapons?
TONOYAN: Again, nothing was removed from the list, we only added new items. We bought multiple OSA-AK units because there was a sudden opportunity to buy them. They performed very well during the war. They were an add-on item.
The original plan did not envisage OSA-AK because their price was too expensive at the time. We later saw an opportunity to buy them as a package at a steep discount.

... what about TOR air-defense units?

TONOYAN: Similarly, we acquired several TOR units during a period when fewer TOR purchases were envisaged under the original plan. This was made possible through skillful negotiations and access to funds.

... is it true that an unprecedented number of army vehicles were imported before the war?

TONOYAN: I don't know if it's "unprecedented" but the state had placed orders for a large number of vehicles. Some of them arrived before and during the war. We encountered significant import barriers even while importing vehicles. Their shape and color were an issue.

... electronic warfare

COMMISSION: Before the war, why did you order the dissolution of all electronic warfare units in every single Army Corps, and disassemble their modern equipment?
TONOYAN: CoGS recommended that after detailed discussions. All I can say is even that "modern equipment" had a subpar performance. Not enough units, and ineffective. Maybe because of insufficient quantity, maybe because we couldn't utilize them properly.
COMMISSION: You also gave the order to dissolve the central battalion tasked with anti-aircraft warfare. Our SPN-30 and SPN-40 units were supposed to combat drones, F-16 jets, or E-7 control aircraft units. Instead, they were removed from combat duty and destroyed. These were basically the older versions of Krasukha.
TONOYAN: The import of newer units was underway. The department tasked with that process can provide details.

... cutting the reserves

COMMISSION: Before the war, why did you eliminate the main reserves of the 1st Army Corps in the direction of Goris and Kapan?
TONOYAN: [Former] CoGS [Artak Davtyan] recommended it. We eliminated those reserves and formed tens of special forces units in their place. That's much better than having those reserves "on paper".
COMMISSION: [New] CoGS Onik Gasparyan regretted that decision.

... did we need to purchase SU-30SM jets?

TONOYAN: Yes. The ratio of balance between Armenia and Azerbaijan in that department was zero to X. We had nothing. We also had no capability to carry out guided precision strikes on targets located far away. We've never had this before. SU-30SM was a purchase for our future.
The decision to acquire SU-30SM was originally made in 2015 but we didn't have the funds at the time. We ended up buying them [after 2018] with resources allocated from outside of the state budget. The Government report mentions that nuance but doesn't clarify what those "non-budgetary resources" mean. I can discuss that behind closed doors. [Wasn't it something about using funds recovered by anti-corruption efforts, paid by former leaders?]
The acquisition of SU-30SM did not prevent other weapons from being purchased. [It was earlier revealed that Armenia wanted to buy TOR units and drones but couldn't find a seller who could deliver them or deliver quickly enough, prompting the government to search for temporary alternatives without suspending the pending TOdrone contracts.]
Additionally, we signed a Su-25 modernization contract with Russia that was supposed to take 3 years. I don't know if this process is underway or has been suspended due to the war in Ukraine.

... myth: draft was suspended prematurely

Context: Pashinyan has denied issuing an order to suspend the regular draft to replace it with volunteers. It was against the law to draft men who had just completed their mandatory 2-year conscription service, so Pashinyan said he used a "loophole" to recruit those men by inviting them as volunteers instead. Thousands of men, including Pashinyan's son, ended up joining as volunteers. It was later revealed and confirmed by an independent figure that the Armenian armies had amassed over 117,000 soldiers.
COMMISSION: Is it true that the official draft was stopped?
TONOYAN: No. The draft was never stopped. I think this manipulation is tied to the process of recruiting volunteers. There were serious issues with the draft which we can discuss behind closed doors. The main issue is that it was inherited from the 1946-1960 USSR, which had a different demographic and battlefields. This is why we launched a process to implement the idea of Active Reserves in Armenia.
COMMISSION: Were the reservists properly trained and harmonized with the regular army before being sent to the frontline?
TONOYAN: It can take months to retrain reservists properly. The entire war lasted only 44 days, so draw your conclusions. But we did have a training process, which was made longer over time.

... how many deserters and draft evaders did we have?

TONOYAN: Let's talk behind closed doors. I believe that had the war continued, we could overcome this issue because the relevant legal structures were finally starting to properly address the issue. I'm not saying the war should have continued.
COMMISSION: Why did we have many deserters?
TONOYAN: To overcome fear the soldier must be trained and prepared. Not enough preparatory work could be done because everything was unfolding quickly.

... resilience & threat assessment

TONOYAN: According to our comprehensive calculations, which were done on multiple occasions, the Armenian army could withstand an attack by an enemy 3x its size.
On the 3rd day of the war, considering Turkey's involvement, the Government was advised to try to negotiate a ceasefire. None of the military's prior threat assessments [2008-2010 and 2016-2018] considered a scenario in which Turkey would attack from the east. At the time of the [2016-2018 threat assessment], the geopolitical situation was different [likely refers to Russia-Turkey relations in Syria].
Our military ties with Russia also made us believe that Turkey itself would not be a direct threat. When Turkey deployed its jets in Azerbaijan's Ganja airport after the drills in Nakhijevan, I held several meetings with representatives from 12 NATO member states in an attempt to neutralize the Turkish threat.

... bulletproof vests

COMMISSION: Were you satisfied with the state of the army at the time of your appointment as MOD? You were a ranking MOD official for years before your appointment. It turned out we were in poor shape: Improper control system for mobilized troops; lack of a digitized database of reservists; insufficient number of helmets and vests, which led to mild injuries becoming deadly and costing many lives; critically low stockpile of missiles as of May 2018 as revealed by Pashinyan.
TONOYAN: I wasn't satisfied or dissatisfied with the work. The army is a living organism, it evolves and improves. The May 2018 assessment told us we could withstand an attack by a 3x greater force.
As for the vests and helmets, we had enough for active-duty soldiers but not for that many reservists. This is why our 2018-2019 report mentioned the need to purchase them. Importing vests and helmets is as difficult as importing a tank because of the same logistics/transfer restrictions.
COMMISSION: Why not import "civilian" bulletproof vests designed for cops? I understand those aren't designed for military use but wouldn't that be better than having reservists with sweatpants and tees? [conversation is interrupted]

... why wasn't the army brought to the highest state of combat readiness on the eve of the war?

TONOYAN: I believe the CoGS issued certain orders. It was in accordance with the level of perceived threat.
COMMISSION: What was the level of perceived threat? Give us a % number.
TONOYAN: I can't give a specific number. It's either "strongly likely" or "fully likely". The threat was "strongly likely" after the July clashes.
COMMISSION: Before the war you met with Russia's MOD Shoygu, while CoGS Onik met Russia's CoGS Gerasimov. Did your Russian colleagues tell you a major war was unlikely to happen?
TONOYAN: Let's talk about this behind closed doors. They asked us not to make provocative moves.

... July 2020 clashes weren't the first

TONOYAN: Our soldiers performed exceptionally well. I'll disclose more details. A few months before the July events there were other clashes on the AM-AZ border, regarding the need to strengthen Armenia's energy security. It was mostly the same army units that participated. It wasn't Armenia who publicized these events. The tactical-level clashes in July were overblown into strategic-level news by Azerbaijan.
COMMISSION: Do you believe Armenia "provoked" the September war?
TONOYAN: We maybe "delayed" it or "expedited" it, but did not cause it. We were forced to take action within our borders. The response by Azerbaijan and Turkey was very disproportionate.

... Crapstitutional reforms

COMMISSION: You said we had issues with the command system.
TONOYAN: Many legal uncertainties regarding the roles of officials and institutions during war and peace.

... where is MoD supposed to be located during the war?

TONOYAN: In the Defense Ministry headquarters. On October 21-29, I was in Meghri under the instructions of Pashinyan. Only now do I fully understand why he sent me there. As you know, Pashinyan recently revealed the existence of a ceasefire proposal that would have stationed Russian peacekeepers in Meghri [to give a corridor to Azerbaijan. Pashinyan rejected the offer. It was around October 19. The war continued.]
COMMISSION: What exactly were you ordered to do in Meghri?
TONOYAN: Our troops had sustained heavy casualties, the mayor of Meghri and the head of the Meghri military unit were wounded, and we were in the process of forming a special command system for the Southern region. My arrival had a positive psychological effect on the population and troops.
I also witnessed how the Russian Border Guard positions were bombed. We were able to establish a serious plan of cooperation with them. I'm very grateful for that.

... why didn't Armenia use Iskander to destroy the parked drones and jets in Azeri airports as soon as possible?

TONOYAN: "Sooner or later" is a decision made by the command. These missiles were used whenever possible and whenever allowed, and whenever they were authorized from the appropriate geographical location. [cough Russia cough?]
COMMISSION: Was Armenia NOT ALLOWED to use certain types of weapons?
TONOYAN: Let's discuss that behind closed doors. Hmmmm.......... but let me put it this way: We could use them but there were limitations with the geography. [Azerbaijan possibly lobbied Russia to prevent the use of Iskanders against the territory of Azerbaijan. Perhaps they could only be used against Azeris who entered Nagorno-Karabakh? This could explain why it was used in Shushi.]
COMMISSION: Did Russia "pressure" Armenia to agree to certain conditions so the war could end ASAP?
TONOYAN: Let's talk behind closed doors. But do know that the war stopped only because Russia brought its peacekeepers to Nagorno-Karabakh, not because of "ceasefire agreements".
COMMISSION: Why didn't Russia bring its peacekeepers sooner?

... can Armenia acquire weapons from NATO while being a member of CSTO?

TONOYAN: Yes. We have always imported weapons from NATO members. CSTO was never a dealbreaker. The real issue is with the "compatibility" of NATO weapons with our systems. Preparatory work is necessary.
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interview with Nagorno-Karabakh opposition leader Gen. Samvel Babayan Secretly agreed to remove tanks Rubern Vardanyan's ambitions ...

Context: Babayan has been in favor of launching direct talks with Baku without a third party to discuss humanitarian topics including the use of the unpopular Aghdam road in addition to the Lachin Corridor. Babayan said that during the 1st Karabakh war, after Azerbaijan found itself in a dire state, they sent a letter to Armenia "begging" to use a similar road for humanitarian purposes. Babayan criticized his fellow opposition figures and Arayik Harutyunyan's government for engaging in "traitor talk" and avoiding responsibility and harsh realities. "If you do not take 'unpopular' steps now, you will be forced to implement them under worse terms after a few months."
REPORTER: Azerbaijan has escalated the situation by abducting a Nagorno-Karabakh citizen who was traveling to Armenia for surgery. The man is accused of "war crimes".
BABAYAN: As I've said earlier, Azerbaijan has a list of 300 individuals they want to arrest. When I suggested holding direct negotiations to discuss the establishment of mutual trust, that was one of the reasons, but some morons described it as a selfish attempt by me to save my own skin. They didn't take it seriously.
Now they will gradually receive more "surprises" because of their inaction. I've submitted a 5-point document to the President, describing what needs to be discussed with Azerbaijan. That was one of the 5 points, the so-called "amnesty". My proposal was ignored. Now we have the first arrest.
REPORTER: What is the solution? Will they return him or imprison him for decades?
BABAYAN: The solution is to launch serious talks with Baku and discuss the issue of every captive/hostage in one large package. There needs to be an amnesty so we can close this subject.
REPORTER: Nagorno-Karabakh government and opposition parties are saying Azerbaijan will use the direct talks as an opportunity to promote the "integration" of Nagorno-Karabakh Armenians into Azerbaijan.
BABAYAN: I don't care what they are saying. What are we doing to resolve the situation? Want to fight? How, against what, and where? Show me your plan. You've got no plan. But as soon as someone presents a plan, you call him a "traitor". This is not a winning strategy.
REPORTER: Your critics in Nagorno-Karabakh call you a traitor for supporting the opening of Aghdam road.
BABAYAN: I've never mentioned the Aghdam road specifically. I said we must create a point of cooperation on the Askeran border so we can conduct regular trade. You are going to do this eventually. You claim not to want it but you will be forced to in 2-5 months. And when that happens, those who are against this idea today must be held accountable for subjecting the Nagorno-Karabakh population to hunger for months.
There is no other realistic option. The naysayers also don't have any solution, they have a slogan: "We must fight now as we did during the 1991 blockade". Listen, buddy, in 1991 we had kolkhoz, sovkhoz, lots of food reserves, and even aircraft flights delivering goods. That's how we survived in 1991. None of that exists today. Don't be delusional.
I presented my negotiation plan and invited public figures to discuss and improve it. In return, I got called a "traitor". Fine. I'll step aside then. You have the full freedom to act. Go "fight until the end" as much as you want. You will eventually understand that you have failed and you are on the brink of surrender like the ruling party ARF surrendered in August 1992. ARF surrendered and admitted they were incapable of ruling anymore. The emergency GKO committee was formed to create a new governing system.
It's the same situation today. You have all sorts of people claiming to be the best candidate for negotiations with Azerbaijan. We have Ruben Vardanyan who said he came to Nagorno-Karabakh only recently, has never participated in prior wars, and would therefore be a great candidate for a negotiator, "they will negotiate with me." Fine, go negotiate. But Azerbaijan called him a Russian spy instead.
Unable to negotiate, Vardanyan claims that if he can't negotiate then no one else should be able to. Vardanyan doesn't want any negotiations to take place. As an Armenian person, I demand an explanation from him. Vardanyan doesn't care about the people of Nagorno-Karabakh, he is there to inflate his personal image.
President Arayik and Sec.Con. Vitali Balasanyan spent 2 years and 9 months negotiating with Azerbaijan after the war. They discussed and resolved some issues. They even agreed to remove weapons from Nagorno-Karabakh, tanks, and other weapons. A schedule was developed to remove 56 tanks. I don't want to reveal everything. At least don't call others a traitor after having done all of that.
Do you really think there were no direct talks with Azerbaijan all these 2 years and 9 months? Russian [peacekeeping chief] acted as mediator. They met twice in Khojalu and several times before that. They addressed the [presumably joint use of a northern road in Nagorno-Karabakh] and issues relating to villages. Lots of topics that I won't disclose.
REPORTER: Did Arayik and Vitali agree to remove weapons during one of these talks?
BABAYAN: Yes. They agreed to remove 56 units of equipment within 2 months.
REPORTER: Was it removed?
BABAYAN: The first half of those 56 units were already removed. As far as I know, the second batch has not been removed.
REPORTER: You suggested using a border point in Askeran to conduct trade with Azerbaijan. The critics fear it can be used to promote the "integration" process.
BABAYAN: We have a plan that touches upon 20 major topics that we must discuss with Azerbaijan. We must discuss that plan among ourselves, improve it, then send a negotiator, who will not be allowed to deviate from that plan. This is the first phase. It's humanitarian in nature, for trust-building.
If Azerbaijan displays a constructive stance and we see that they are serious about establishing trust, then we can proceed to the second phase, to discuss the political aspect of the conflict. Don't focus on whether Azerbaijan will demand their flag installed here or there, it's not time yet, we are yet to discuss confidence-building measures.
REPORTER: Isn't it obvious that we cannot build trustworthy relations with Azerbaijan?
BABAYAN: No. It's possible. If we try and fail, if Azerbaijan refuses, only then we can confidently claim it's impossible.
REPORTER: Will Azerbaijan agree to discuss those 20 topics?
BABAYAN: We'll send it to Baku in written form. They are free to amend and send it back. If there is a mutually acceptable part we can hold negotiations to resolve the pending issues. It is all about making civilians' lives easier. If they reject even this, then we go for another round of war.
REPORTER: What if Azerbaijan presents only one topic: integration?
BABAYAN: If you watch Azeri and international news, everyone was at first talking about "integration", but they have suddenly shifted the language to "confidence-building".
Do you remember how Aliyev went from demanding a "corridor" to clarifying himself that he never actually meant a "corridor"? Are you sure you understand the real definition of "integration"? How do you know their definition of "integration" isn't something acceptable, like closer economic ties with Azerbaijan?
Azerbaijan will never listen to the world. They have their own strategy. You either fight or negotiate. Choose one. The world isn't going to rescue you. Go protest as much as you want. Nothing will happen.
If you want to fight, then at least do one of the following:
1) Gain the status of an international subject via UN's Chapter 7 so Azerbaijan can't treat you as an "internal problem".
2) As the legal successor of this region, as the actor who made you part of Azerbaijan during the USSR, Russia must answer for this situation and ensure physical safety.
3) Challenge Azerbaijan's claim over Nagorno-Karabakh by bringing up the legal violations in the UN. Nagorno-Karabakh was originally declared as a disputed territory by the Nations League and wasn't recognized as part of Azerbaijan. But the Nations League's successor UN, despite the presence of the same ethnic and other issues on the ground, recognized it as part of Azerbaijan, in violation of its own rules. Armenia must submit a letter to challenge the UN's decision and point out the fact that this violation has since led to 2 wars in the region.
So if you want to struggle for independence, at least do one of those three. Nothing will come out of your [President's] protests in Stepanakert. We tried that unsuccessfully in 1988. That strategy doesn't work.
REPORTER: Will Azerbaijan use force against Nagorno-Karabakh?
BABAYAN: At least not at this stage, but things change rapidly around the world. A lot depends on us. We can have a favorable outcome if we work.
REPORTER: Azerbaijan won't even allow the food trucks to enter Nagorno-Karabakh. Is it even possible to live peacefully with them?
BABAYAN: Azerbaijan wants us to buy the food from Azerbaijan (not import it from another state) and send it to Nagorno-Karabakh via Aghdam road. So tell me, did you enjoy your 20-year-long belly rub and the squandering of public resources that made all this possible?
REPORTER: [unintelligable]
BABAYAN: Ex-president Serj Sargsyan and others talk a lot these days. What have they done for 20 years? We lost the war because they hid the issues in the army. Serj and [newly elected] Pashinyan ignored my suggestions about weapons acquisitions. I told them to either 1) buy enough weapons specified by me, 2) seek a mandate for a major power to enter Nagorno-Karabakh, or 3) accept any concession proposed by the OSCE Minsk Group. They ignored all three.
We don't have a functional state today. Look at how things are handled in Nagorno-Karabakh. They catch a random guy from the street and appoint him as a minister. The guy doesn't admit that he lacks governing skills. He [State Minister Gurgen Nersisyan] is busy yelling at tomato sellers on the street for pricing their goods above the legal caps. The guy is the head of the government. He is protesting in front of the Red Cross office with 40 others. This is us now. Why are we criticizing others?
REPORTER: What is Nersisyan supposed to do?
BABAYAN: Govern the state. They were supposed to properly distribute fuel so villagers could deliver food to cities. They have more than enough fuel for all these cars in Stepanakert but not enough for farmers? It's a result of a lack of skills to manage resources.
REPORTER: Why did the president of the Nagorno-Karabakh Parliament resign?
BABAYAN: 1) He has health issues. 2) It's mostly a political decision. They have decided to replace him with someone from ARF, to grant ARF more powers. It's a terrible idea. They are going to further destabilize the situation with that move. Besides that, ARF only has 3 MPs, we have 9, and the other has 16. What's the point of ARF agreeing to hold this position? The decision was made by an agreement between the new and old leaders [of Nagorno-Karabakh]. Apparently, they want to play with the population a little bit more. Okay, go on and play.
REPORTER: Do you mean ex-president Bako Sahakyan and others are working together?
BABAYAN: Yes. They have one goal: humiliate our population as much as possible, as long as they get to keep their lives.
REPORTER: Is the Armenian government doing enough to help Nagorno-Karabakh?
BABAYAN: The governments of Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh appear to have a strategy. I'm not familiar with the details and the steps that are being taken, but the government of Nagorno-Karabakh doesn't complain about the Armenian government that much. I'm not familiar with the content of their discussions.
REPORTER: Pashinyan says he doesn't have a mandate to decide Nagorno-Karabakh's fate. Is that problematic?
BABAYAN: Of course not. Big brother Armenia to little brother Nagorno-Karabakh should be like Turkey to Azerbaijan. The problem is, the little brother [Nagorno-Karabakh government] is hesitating to act. This is where the problem is. We must correct the mistake that began in 1999 [when Nagorno-Karabakh was removed from the negotiation table].
We must sit down and discuss our issues with Azerbaijan. It doesn't matter if we lost the war. We have been elevated from an object to a subject. If we negotiate skillfully, things will work out.
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interview with a military industry expert Gor Amatuni

REPORTER: Have you witnessed any progress in the development of Armenia's domestic military industry after the war?
AMATUNI: Yes, many positive changes. It's no longer the "hell" that it used to be. Big improvements at the Military Industry Committee, and smaller improvements in the Defense Ministry in terms of ease of working with them.
REPORTER: Describe some of the changes.
AMATUNI: Inventors and scientists are being heard and invited for meetings. "We were finally able to reach someone knowledgable," they say. There is a systemic approach now. Before, the manufacturers were producing whatever they wanted or could. Now, the system describes the manufacturers how their product will be implemented and in conjunction with what other products.
REPORTER: You said the military industry still has issues with the Defense Ministry. Describe it.
AMATUNI: Mainly bureaucracy. Certain individuals within the Ministry, not the entire ministry, are corrupt. They hinder the process. There are times when we present our product that's better and cheaper than what they import, but they refuse to accept ours because it's easier for them [to skim by forging the import records].
REPORTER: What limitations does our domestic industry have?
AMATUNI: A small country like Armenia cannot produce weapons on its own, we need to partner with international players, and we do. Our military industry must produce AND import. We have partnerships with several states: India, Greece, Cyprus, France, etc.
REPORTER: Indian press was excited that a foreign state [Armenia] has finally signed a large-scale weapons contract. But do we have a problem with delivering those weapons to Armenia?
AMATUNI: The deliveries are successful despite some difficulties. Items that cannot be delivered in one piece are being delivered piece by piece. Do know that we are importing weapons not just from India.
REPORTER: From where else?
AMATUNI: Several states, including a NATO state. Let's not open the parenthesis for now.
REPORTER: Is Armenia's membership in CSTO not an issue for the NATO state?
AMATUNI: There are NATO countries that want to help strengthen Armenia. There are always ways to import technologies, visible or invisible. The NATO country in question is France. Not everything is ideal yet but things are moving forward now. [Last month we learned that Defense Minister Papikyan visited France to discuss military cooperation. Pashinyan later described his visit as "successful" but didn't reveal details].
REPORTER: Are these steps helping restore the military balance in the region?
AMATUNI: Our #1 opponent in the region is Turkey. Obviously we are not as powerful as them but the goal is to be able to make war too costly for your opponent by being able to conduct strikes critical for them. We are working towards that.
REPORTER: But isn't our #1 opponent Azerbaijan?
AMATUNI: Azerbaijan is nothing without Turkey. We would have torn them into pieces if it wasn't for all the assistance from Turkey. I don't make such claims without evidence. In reality, several states are working against us, including Russia today. So we must develop our domestic military industry to turn Armenia into a hedgehog. Touch me and you'll be stung.
REPORTER: What else can you tell us about the cooperation with France?
AMATUNI: When people hear "weapons" they often only think of a gun that shoots at you. But there is a lot more than that. France is the strongest state in the EU. Today, steps are being taken to "cooperate" with them, it's not just about receiving aid. There are serious efforts to cooperate with France, Greece, Cyprus, etc.
REPORTER: Any efforts to train our soldiers in France?
AMATUNI: France could send a few experts to Armenia, we don't need to send our soldiers there. Modern training is conducted with digital joysticks, not Soviet-style spetsnaz training. One guy with a joystick could kill a battalion's worth of enemy troops. There is some progress in this area, too.
REPORTER: On paper Russia and CSTO are allies but our army leaders have been visiting NATO states lately. What does that mean?
AMATUNI: CSTO has never helped us. The only thing we received from them was corruption. They corrupted the army built by Vazgen Sargsyan instead of strengthening it. It is being corrected now. It's a difficult process.
I meet with many unit leaders on the front lines. They tell me that today we have things that we've never had before.
We've been warning our citizens not to videotape and share footage from the front lines. Azeris use them to gather intel that they didn't possess. There were videos of our drones being flown around, drones that aren't weak. We also have certain robotic [or possibly automated] technologies on the front lines today. The process is moving forward.
REPORTER: It's been claimed that in 2021 the Armenian army tried to avoid border clashes at all costs due to the state of weakness, but lately they've been actively resisting and often successfully. What has changed?
AMATUNI: A few months ago Azeris attempted a provocation in Vardenis direction. We responded with a counterstrike and obliterated their positions. I personally know the men guarding that line. Yes, we have progress, and things are improving on a daily basis. 7-8 months from now our counterattacks could become devastating. We just need 8 more months to do what hasn't been done all these years.
While we were spending $400m on weapons annually, Azeris were dumping $4 billion on it. Their military budget surpassed our entire budget. This is the gap we are trying to fill today. We still have so many terrible shortcomings in the army today, but the process to reform it has begun.
REPORTER: For 20 years the government told us that seniors and teachers had to endure low pensions and wages so that our army could be strong. So how come both the pensions were low and the army was weak?
AMATUNI: The army was a cash cow for politicians and generals. Is that news?
REPORTER: Do you support the opposition's anti-Pashinyan struggle?
AMATUNI: I do not take politicians seriously unless they also offer reasonable alternative solutions. Some of them want Armenia to fight another war now. How are you going to fight a war under current conditions? Will you be on the frontline? At least Pashinyan is a realist. The hurrah-patriots don't mind it someone else's son to dies in the war. We need time to prepare for war.
REPORTER: Is a major war a possibility at the moment?
AMATUNI: There is a strong possibility of a war against Nagorno-Karabakh, it will most likely happen. Unlikely against Armenia.
REPORTER: Russia accuses Armenia of making it impossible for peacekeepers to act by "recognizing Nagorno-Karabakh as part of Azerbaijan".
AMATUNI: That's just an excuse. The only difference between Serj/Kocharyan and Pashinyan is that former leaders were doing that behind closed doors while Pashinyan says that publicly so Armenia won't be perceived as an aggressor state. You will not be an aggressor state if you then announce that the population of Nagorno-Karabakh has the right to self-determination under UN law.
REPORTER: Russia took the money but never delivered the weapons. How can we get it back?
AMATUNI: Might as well write it off as a loss. Their betrayal began before their struggles in Ukraine. Nothing was preventing them from delivering weapons to Armenia in 2020-2021.
REPORTER: After the April 2016 war the media outlets allied with President Serj published propaganda claiming that Russia delivered Iskander systems to Armenia to restore the balance of power.
AMATUNI: The best Iskander can do is partially destroy a 5-story Khrushovka apartment complex. If there are 100 residents, 70 will survive.
REPORTER: The Armenian public was told it can blow up Baku.
AMATUNI: Exactly. There is nothing special about Iskander, especially since they gave us the most outdated type.
I have a friend who gave the coordinates of targets in Ganja airport and paid around €30,000 to conduct a strike with Iskander. The missile didn't reach the airport, it struck a residential building. That's totally unacceptable. Civilians should not be injured.
REPORTER: Why didn't the missile reach the airport?
AMATUNI: 1) They gave us an old Iskander. 2) We weren't in full control of the missile.
REPORTER: How does it work? We buy Iskander but still have to rely on Russia to control the missiles?
AMATUNI: Why does this concept surprise you? Did we not pay $200m and get jackshit in return? What do you think happened to the newly purchased Su-30SM jets? Why were they MIA during the war?
REPORTER: We didn't have compatible missiles.
AMATUNI: Not just that. We even had pilots but the control system didn't belong to us. Armenia and Russia had formed a unified air defense network which was presented as something hugely positive and reassuring. They stubbed us in the back.
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Armenia is buying "Indian HIMARS" rocket launchers

It was announced last year that Armenia is interested in purchasing several types of weapons and ammunition from India worth $260m. The most notable one is the Pinaka rocket launder. Armenia will become the only foreign country to own them. Pinaka comes in 122mm and 214mm variants. The former is closer to GRAD, while the latter is closer to Russian URAGAN, or American HIMARS as some have noted.
Last week Azerbaijani press released an unconfirmed video allegedly showing the transportation of multiple Pinaka units to Armenia. Baku sent a note of protest to New Delhi.

... why Pinaka?

1) It's available for purchase.
2) It's highly mobile. Can shoot-and-scoot.
Armenia is buying mobile weapons to address the threat of Azeri drones. Pinaka needs 3 minutes to prepare and launch a strike, and 2 minutes to GTFO. It fires 12 rockets in 44 seconds. The range of this model is 38 km.

... how many Indian artillery batteries does Armenia have so far?

Over 10 batteries, with each battery having 6-12 rockets in it. Armenia's old D-30 howitzer is a "joke" compared to the new ones.
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2023.05.10 15:29 Atoraxic The Need for an Innovative Joint Psychological Warfare Force Structure​By Richard B. Davenport Joint Force Quarterly

The Need for an Innovative Joint Psychological Warfare Force Structure​By Richard B. Davenport Joint Force Quarterly 88
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Jan. 10, 2018 —Download PDF Lieutenant Colonel Richard B. Davenport, USA, is the Chief of Training for Psychological Operations at the U.S. Army John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School. Twenty-first-century warfare—where hearts, minds, and opinion are, perhaps, more important than kinetic force projection—is guided by a new and vital dimension, namely the belief that whose story wins may be more important than whose army wins. This is especially true if one avoids kinetic engagement altogether. —Stefan Halper, China: The Three Warfares
It has been over 30 years since the first Department of Defense (DOD) Psychological Operations (PSYOP) Master Plan was published in 1985, advocating for a permanent joint psychological warfare element. Such an element could provide “DOD-wide psychological operations with strategic focus and the capability to orchestrate and coordinate the military PSYOP effort in conjunction with other U.S. Government agencies.”1 Since then, the authors of numerous other documents and members of working groups such as Unified Quest 2015 and 2016 have all advocated for some type of strategic influence command that could specifically align, synchronize, harmonize, unify, integrate, improve, counter, collaborate, direct, and deconflict all forms of influence and persuasion efforts among all elements of diplomacy, informational, military, and economic (DIME), and joint, interorganizational, and multinational organizations (JIMs).2 However, even with all of these voices and efforts spanning many decades, such an organization has not come to fruition. 📷 Army Reserve Soldiers with U.S. Army Civil Affairs and Psychological Operations Command (Airborne) board CASA 212 aircraft during night airborne operation at Camp Mackall Airfield, North Carolina, March 12, 2013 (U.S. Army/Jacquelyn R. Slaughter)
Today, the current operational environment and information environment have fragmented and decentralized, causing ethnic, racial, religious, national, and tribal differences to increase and fostering complex hybrid warfare types of conflicts and scenarios all over the globe.3 To this mix we must factor in the growing and effective psychological warfare capabilities of the likes of China, which has a “Strategic Support Force . . . elevated to an equal footing with China’s other military services, the army, navy, air force”; Russia, which has “built up its muscle by forming a new branch of the military—information warfare troops”; and the so-called Islamic State (IS), which employs sophisticated propaganda efforts. Given these developments, there has never been a greater historical need and better opportunity to create this strategic joint influence organization and subsequent total joint influence force structure.4
This article lays out the evolution of psychological warfare (PSYWAR) as an organization and demonstrates the need to create three strategic influence organizations: a new Joint Influence Warfare Element (JIWE) to operate at the National Security Council, DOD, and Department of State levels; a subunified Joint Influence Warfare Command (JIWC) to operate at the DOD and Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) levels; and Theater Director of Influence (TDI) organizations to operate at the geographic combatant command (GCCMD) levels.5
Struggle and Evolution of Unified Strategic PSYWAR​
American PSYWAR has a long and storied history that can be traced back to the Revolutionary War, when Colonial forces threw strips of paper (containing promises of more money, food, land, and freedom) tied to rocks at Redcoats to induce surrenders.6 Today, DOD influence efforts are taking place in Syria and Iraq supporting Operation Inherent Resolve, with various technological dissemination platforms and messages being used to reach select foreign target audiences. The current PSYOP force structure dates to World War II, when PSYWAR was first officially institutionalized and formalized with the 1942 formation of the Psychological Warfare Branch, Allied Force Headquarters (PWB/AFHQ), which was led by the “father” of U.S. PSYWAR, Major General Robert A. McClure. The PWB/AFHQ supported PSYWAR efforts in North Africa, Sicily, Italy, and southern France; in 1944, the Psychological Warfare Division, Supreme Headquarters Allied European Forces, was created by General Dwight D. Eisenhower to conduct PSYWAR in the European theater.7 Some of today’s PSYOP units can trace their lineage to those original organizations. However, today’s DOD influence force structure, specifically at the strategic level, has issues that need to be addressed and corrected.
Strategic influence has always been a problematic reality not only for DOD but also for the U.S. Government as a whole. In 1953, the U.S. Government under President Eisenhower established the United States Information Agency (USIA). The agency was highly successful for decades during the Cold War until it was officially shut down in 1999. It had a massive $2 billion annual budget focused on the ability “to streamline the U.S. government’s overseas information programs, and make them more effective” in speaking to the values and truths about the United States and countering the propaganda coming from Soviet active measures in about 150 different countries.8
The disestablishment of the USIA in 1999 created a void in the U.S. Government efforts for global strategic messaging that allowed adversarial states and nonstates the opportunity to dominate the narrative in multiple regions. This conceded global strategic space was then only contested through disorganized U.S. counternarratives that had no true unity of effort or synchronization. What made this problematic for DOD was that there was no strategic military organization that could act as a backstop or complementary function to conduct strategic influence planning and global synchronization. Some of these realities date back to the 1980s when the first major overhaul of U.S. military PSYOP took place.
The first modern-day overhaul and restructuring of the PSYWAR organization started during the Ronald Reagan era. An official directive came from the 1984 Presidential order that directed Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger to rebuild military PSYOP capabilities. This was followed by the development of the 1985 DOD PSYOP Master Plan, which Secretary Weinberger approved. One of the key findings by the Service authors of the PSYOP Master Plan was that subordination of PSYOP to special operations forces (SOF) was believed to detract from the recognition of the overall applicability of PSYOP in times of peace, crisis, and war. However, at that time PSYOP as an organization was a part of the 1st Special Operations Command at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. In 1987, General Jim Lindsay, USA, the first commander of the U.S. Special Operations Command (USSOCOM), lobbied to overturn Secretary Weinberger’s decision on separation of PSYOP from SOF, as did the Army staff and Joint Staff. This decision was due to the loss of all Active component (AC) and Reserve component (RC) PSYOP units and all the congressional money for PSYOP, which would have made it more difficult to justify a four-star command. Secretary Weinberger then reversed his decision and assigned Army and Air Force AC and RC PSYOP units to USSOCOM.9 One could argue that since that decision, DOD has not had a true strategic influence command to plan, develop, manage, synchronize, and deconflict all influence activities. This has fostered a disorganized DOD-wide influence force structure with no true unity of influence command and with inadequate operational procedures for addressing transregional influence activities in the operational environment.10
Since 1987, Army PSYOP has fallen under USSOCOM and the U.S. Army Special Operations Command (USASOC). Part of the command structure at that time involved one AC and two RC PSYOP groups—the AC 4th PSYOP Group and the RC 2nd and 7th PSYOP Group, which fell under the U.S. Army Civil Affairs and Psychological Operations Command (USACAPOC), subordinate to USASOC. From a unity of command perspective, this was not a bad solution in that all of AC and RC PSYOP fell under one unified command structure. However, this changed with the events of September 11, 2001, and all the subsequent deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan. Due to issues with long mobilizations of the RC PSYOP forces, in 2006 Deputy Secretary of Defense Gordon England signed a memorandum that reassigned RC PSYOP units from USSOCOM to the U.S. Army Reserve Command.11 This made the 4th PSYOP Group support primarily AC SOF. It also made both 2nd and 7th PSYOP Groups support AC general purpose forces, which was problematic because of a lack of year-round training support to AC forces on Active duty. Finally, it broke up true unity of command for all of PSYOP. Other dysfunctional influence efforts were coming from the information operations (IO) force structure.
Another byproduct of September 11 was the continued growth and solidification of the IO force. During the late 1990s, IO was a nascent idea where officers were selected to fill field support team positions at the corps and division levels. However, these positions were rarely filled, and the idea of synchronizing information-related capabilities was not well organized or managed by any one organization throughout DOD. In the late 1990s, the Army G3 reached out to the U.S. Army John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School (SWCS), which at that time was the overall proponent for SOF, to see if SOF would want to take control of synchronizing information-related capabilities and filling the role of field support teams at corps and divisions. SWCS rejected the idea, and the Army G3 began formalizing the IO organization as well as creating a functional area for IO officers. Today, the IO force structure falls under U.S. Army Cyber Command. The ultimate issue has been a lack of true unity of command that could provide the leadership, vision, guidance, management, and synchronization of all influence efforts across not only the Army but also joint, DOD, and interagency elements.
The first idea for a strategic joint-level organization that could plan, coordinate, and synchronize influence operations began with the 1985 and 1990 DOD PSYOP Master Plans, which advocated for the creation of a Joint PSYOP Center. There were several key features and recommended functions. The plan would:
However, this type of joint influence organization as originally conceived would not come to fruition until 2004, when the Joint Psychological Support Element (JPSE) was established. But decisions were made to keep the organization under the command and control of USSOCOM and not the JCS. Additionally, the JPSE (which was renamed the Joint Military Information Support Command [JMISC] in 2009) did perform some of those key functions as articulated in the 1985 DOD PSYOP Master Plan, but the joint organization lasted only 7 years and was disestablished in 2011. It did not have an opportunity for continued growth and therefore was unable to reach its full strategic potential. Part of the decision to disband the JMISC was to form a new command at Fort Bragg, the Military Information Support Operations Command (MISOC), to conduct and manage worldwide influence as well as have better command and control of all of AC and RC PSYOP forces.
One aspect of the worldwide influence vision for the formation of the MISOC was to move the RC 2nd and 7th PSYOP Groups from the USACAPOC to the MISOC for better unity of command for influence. However, this was a short-lived experience; in 2014, USASOC reorganized the MISOC into the U.S. 1st Special Forces Command with the 4th and 8th PSYOP Groups under its command and control structure, and with the 2nd and 7th PSYOP Groups remaining under USACAPOC. All these decisions led to another strategic influence gap for DOD and no true unifying type of command for all things influence. Adding to these issues was the lack of accomplishments coming from the strategically focused Global Engagement Center (GEC).
In 2015, Major General Christopher Haas, USA, the USSOCOM Director of Force Management and Development, testified before the House Armed Services Committee on Russian and IS propaganda. Congress had recognized that our adversaries were successful in the art and science of influence and were asking the U.S. military why we were falling behind in countering those efforts. In Crimea, the Russians had been overwhelmingly successful in conducting hybrid warfare, which as its primary effort was the use of propaganda and disinformation to achieve its ends.13 On the other side of the coin was the rise of IS and its sophisticated and professional use of propaganda. In 2016, the Department of State responded to these congressional observations by rebranding its Center for Strategic Counterterrorism Communications as the GEC.
From 2010 to 2015, State had been unsuccessful in its online social media operations to counter IS global propaganda efforts. One reason for its lack of success against the warlike nonstate actor is that State is primarily staffed by civil servants who are trained to conduct diplomacy, not warfare. Additionally, Senator Rob Portman (R-OH) and Senator Chris Murphy (D-CT) introduced the Countering Information Warfare Act of 2016, which advocated for the creation of the Center for Information Analysis and Response.14 This bill was signed by President Barack Obama in December 2016 and became a part of the fiscal year 2017 National Defense Authorization Act.
These global organizations, however, do not have a unifying vision. On the one hand, the GEC approach to counterinfluence is using primarily Web 2.0 platforms. On the other hand, the future Center for Information Analysis and Response will handle both Russian and Chinese propaganda efforts using various other platforms and means to influence. The result will be no true unified joint influence organization that can synchronize and deconflict all the DOD influencing efforts with those coming from interorganizational and multinational influencing entities. Additionally, having so many interorganizational entities for influence and a disorganized joint influence force creates a complex approach to managing influence efforts and therefore results in a lack of critical mass for influence against adversarial states and nonstate actors.15 Due to the identified strategic influence gaps and lack of a unified influence command structure for the entire joint force, the recommendations in the following section provide innovative solutions to fix the DOD and joint strategic influencing force structure gap.
Solutions for an Innovative Structure​
To fill the strategic influence gap, DOD should consider the creation of a Joint Influence Warfare Element, a Joint Influence Warfare Command, and five to six regionally aligned Theater Director of Influence organizations. Additionally, a newly formed U.S. Army PSYWAR Command and all three Service influence organizations and entities would fall under the command and control of the JIWC. These organizational changes would ensure that all joint influence organizations maintain their unique culture and identity at all levels of war and across all domains and spaces—physical space and cyberspace. JIWE would provide the highest level of strategic influence representation at the National Security Council, DOD, and State Department levels. It would carry out specific influence strategy-making responsibilities with an effort on ensuring interagency, specifically State (also the GEC and Broadcasting Board of Governors), newly formed Center for Information Analysis and Response, and Central Intelligence Agency deconfliction and synchronization. Greater synchronization of a national narrative would be of the utmost importance at this level.
JIWC would be a subunified strategic influence command that falls directly under U.S. Strategic Command with direct coordination with DOD, JCS, and JIWE, and where all joint Service influence organizations fall under its command and control. The organization would act as a joint global influence synchronizer and provide the ability to primarily coordinate and deconflict strategic influence with national messaging efforts to include perception and narrative management. JIWC would also provide strategic advice and strategy options on whole-of-government and unified action global programs. All influence messaging efforts would be better synchronized between all organizations to include the GCCMDs, interagency, intergovernmental, and multinational entities. It would make greater efforts to diffuse crises, reduce confrontations, and counter all forms of propaganda, whether state-run or nonstate influence efforts, through Web 2.0 platforms. Additionally, greater synchronization and deconfliction with contractors who are influencing within various regions would take place. JIWC would be staffed with civilian personnel who have expertise in media and data analysis and in research and survey analysis, to include polling experts. The organization would have streamlined program approval mechanisms in place that would provide for efficient and timely approved influence programs for the entire joint force. TDI would be collocated at the theater level and support both the GCCMD and the Theater Special Operations Command (TSOC). It would be designed to be regionally aligned where it could support the conventional Regionally Aligned Forces or Security Force Assistance Brigades and SOF within the region. Each TDI would have transregional authorities and would coordinate for regional PSYWAR assets and dissemination and tactical assets, and would possess a theater Strategic Studies Detachment/Cultural Intelligence Element cell. The organization would also possess a hybrid Army AC and RC PSYWAR element as well as other joint Service influence representatives, giving it a true joint influence capability. Additionally, there would be a mix of interorganizational personnel, Army civilians, and contractors who would provide various types of support. TDI would have the capability to deploy from out of the GCCMD/TSOC location and be able to form a JIM influence task force if need be. 📷 Soldier with 303rd Psychological Operations Company and Marine with Marine Aerial Refueler Transport Squadron 252 watch leaflets fall over southern Afghanistan, August 28, 2013, in support of operations to defeat insurgency influence in area (U.S. Marine Corps/Demetrius Munnerlyn)
Conclusion​
This article has articulated the need to create an innovative unified joint PSYWAR force structure that can adequately conduct strategic and operational influence. The gap in capabilities has been evolving since the conclusion of World War II and the Korean War. Few successful strategic influence organizations exist outside of DOD and the JCS with the exception of the USIA. However, that organization was disestablished in 1999 and has yet to be properly reestablished in some way in order to fit 21st-century warfare realities. The State Department created the Center for Strategic Counterterrorism Communications in 2010, but after years of failed influence operations, it was rebranded the GEC in 2016. Then there was the disestablishment of the JMISC in 2011 and the MISOC in 2014. Throughout all these attempts and evolutions, DOD has never had a subunified influence command to coordinate the proper aligning, synchronizing, harmonizing, unifying, integrating, improving, countering, collaborating, directing, and deconflicting of all forms of influence and persuasion efforts among all elements of DIME and JIMs. The suggestion to fill that void is to create a new joint influence force structure consisting of the Joint Influence Warfare Element, Joint Influence Warfare Command, and Theater Director of Influence organizations. If these recommended changes are made, the joint influence force will be in a much better unified position to support and defend the Nation’s strategic interests against all propaganda efforts coming from the likes of adversarial states and nonstate actors well into the foreseeable future. JFQ
Notes​
1 Department of Defense Psychological Operations Master Plan (Washington, DC: Department of Defense [DOD], 1990), 10, available at <www.DOD.gov/pubs/foi/Reading_Room/Othe349.pdf>. 2 Documents advocating the need for some type of strategic Psychological Operations (PSYOP) Command that could properly synchronize all our influence and persuasion efforts include Psychological Operations into the 21st Century: A Critical Assessment (Fort Bragg, NC: U.S. Army John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School, 1997), 31–32; Presidential Decision Directive 68, International Public Information, April 30, 1999; Report of the Defense Science Board Task Force on the Creation and Dissemination of All Forms of Information in Support of PSYOP in Time of Military Conflict (Washington, DC: DOD, May 2000), 15–18; Dave Acevedo, PSYOP: Coordinating Worldwide Psychological Operations—Is There a National Requirement for a Strategic Psychological Operations Organization? (n.c.: BiblioScholar, 2012).
3 Global Trends: Paradox of Progress (Washington, DC: Director of National Intelligence, 2017), 26–27, 43–44, 59, 61, 110, available at <www.dni.gov/index.php/global-trends/letter-nic-chairman>; Mathew Burrows and Robert Manning, eds., Global System on the Brink: Pathways toward a New Normal(Washington, DC: Atlantic Council, 2015), 1, 4, 15, 19, available at <www.atlanticcouncil.org/images/publications/Global_ System_on_the_Brink.pdf>; Robert Kagan, “Backing into World War III: America Must Check the Assertive, Rising Powers of Russia and China Before It’s Too Late,” Foreign Policy, February 6, 2017, available at <http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/02/06/backing-into-world-war-iii-russia-china-trump-obama/>; The National Military Strategy of the United States of America 2015 (Washington, DC: The Joint Staff, 2015), 4, available at <www.jcs.mil/Portals/36/Documents/Publications/2015_National_Military_Strategy.pdf>; Michael Miller, “Hybrid Warfare: Preparing for Future Conflict,” Air War College, 2015, 7–14, available at <www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/awc/2015_miller.pdf>; and Brad Allenby and Joel Garreau, “Weaponized Narrative Is the New Battlespace,” Defense One, January 3, 2017, available at <www.defenseone.com/ideas/2017/01/weaponized-narrative-new-battlespace/134284/>.
4 There have been numerous publications on the rise and effectiveness of U.S. adversarial influence capabilities, such as Bill Gertz, iWar, War and Peace in the Information Age (New York: Threshold Editions Publishing, 2017), 281; Stefan Halper, China: The Three Warfares (Washington, DC: DOD, 2013), available at <https://cryptome.org/2014/06/prc-three-wars.pdf>; Valery Gerasimov, “The Value of Science Is in the Foresight, New Challenges Demand Rethinking Forms and Methods of Carrying out Combat Operations,” Military Review (January–February 2016), available at <http://usacac.army.mil/CACOMMAND AND CONTROL /MilitaryReview/Archives/English/MilitaryReview_20160228_art008.pdf>; Vladimir Isachenkov, “Russia Military Acknowledges New Branch: Info Warfare Troops,” Associated Press, February 22, 2017, available at <http://bigstory.ap.org/article/8b75...3c/russian-military-continues-massive-upgrade>; Charlie Winter, The Virtual “Caliphate”: Understanding Islamic State’s Propaganda Strategy (London: Quilliam, July 2016), available at <www.stratcomcoe.org/charlie-winter-virtual-caliphate-understanding-islamic-states-propaganda-strategy>.
5 Harold D. Lasswell, “Political and Psychological Warfare,” and Roland I. Perusse, Psychological Warfare Reappraised,” in A Psychological Warfare Casebook, ed. William E. Daugherty and Morris Janowitz (Baltimore: Johns Hopkins University Press, 1958), 13, 17, 23, 26. One of the first definitions for U.S. PSYWAR that was agreed upon by the Services was “the employment of any non-lethal means designed to affect the morale and behavior of any group for a specific military purpose.” Additionally, the Army defined PSYWAR as “the planned use by a nation in time of war or declared emergency of propaganda measures designed to influence the opinions, emotions, attitudes and behavior of enemy, neutral or friendly foreign groups in such a way as to support the accomplishment of its national policies and aims.” Lastly, Paul M.A. Linebarger defined PSYWAR as “the use of propaganda against an enemy, together with such other operational measures of a military, economic, or political nature as may be required to supplement propaganda.” Halper states that psychological warfare: seeks to influence and/or disrupt an opponent’s decision-making capability, to create doubts, foment anti-leadership sentiments, to deceive opponents and to attempt to diminish the will to fight among opponents. It employs diplomatic pressure, rumor, false narratives and harassment to express displeasure, assert hegemony and convey threats. China’s economy is utilized to particular effect: China threatens sale of U.S. debt; pressures U.S. businesses invested in China’s market; employs boycotts; restricts critical exports (rare minerals); restricts imports; threatens predatory practices to expand market share, etc.
What could be considered a subset of PSYWAR is media warfare (also known as public opinion warfare), a “constant, on-going activity aimed at long-term influence of perceptions and attitudes.” It leverages all instruments that inform and influence public opinion including films, television programs, books, the Internet, and the global media network (particularly Xinhua and CCTV) and is undertaken nationally by the People’s Liberation Army and locally by the People’s Armed Police and is directed against domestic populations in target countries. Media warfare aims to preserve friendly morale, generate public support at home and abroad, weaken an enemy’s will to fight, and alter an enemy’s situational assessment. It is used to gain “dominance over the venue for implementing psychological and legal warfare.” Today, PSYOP or military information support operations (MISO) are defined as “planned operations to convey selected information and indicators to foreign audiences to influence their emotions, motives, objective reasoning, and ultimately the behavior of foreign governments, organizations, groups, and individuals.” See Joint Publication (JP) 3-13, Information Operations (Washington, DC: The Joint Staff, 2014), II-9, II-10. The problem with PSYOP is the word operations, which are a subset of some type of overall strategy or war. A campaign even has operations or battles. PSYOP is a subservient term to something larger. PSYWAR puts it at a much higher level and also takes on a more serious connotation. The use of the term MISO is also problematic. The PSYOP community is the only DOD organization designed to influence and persuade. Information is not about an aggressive approach to influence; it is about informing. When we send B2 bombers to the Republic of Korea or aircraft carriers to the Mediterranean, are we trying to inform decisionmakers or influence them? Moving strategic and operational assets is an aggressive action to influence, just as PSYWAR is an overall aggressive approach to influence. Lastly is the use of the word support in the term MISO. This is problematic as well because it gives the impression that influence is subservient to other organizations. However, there are some cases when PSYWAR is the main effort and other organizations are the supporting effort. Ultimately, terminology for influence and persuasion against U.S. adversaries has always been a contentious issue among U.S. officials and senior leaders. We have gone from the term propaganda, which was used in World War I, to PSYWAR in World War II, to PSYOP during the Cold War, and now MISO during the war on terror, and yet they have all been relatively defined the same.
6 Daugherty and Janowitz, 60.
7 U.S. Army Special Operations Forces, Psychological Operations, A Historical Primer (Fort Bragg, NC: 3rd PSYOP Battalion, 2014), 12–14.
8 Gertz, 20.
9 Alfred H. Paddock, Jr., “No More Tactical Information Detachments: U.S. Military Psychological Operations in Transition,” in Psychological Operations: Principles and Case Studies, ed. Frank Goldstein and Benjamin Findley, Jr. (Maxwell Air Force Base, AL: Air University Press, 1996), 37–41.
10 JP 3-0, Joint Operations (Washington, DC: The Joint Staff, 2016), A2–A3, states, “Unity of command means that all forces operate under a single commander with the requisite authority to direct all forces employed in pursuit of a common purpose. During multinational operations and interagency coordination, unity of command may not be possible, but the requirement for unity of effort becomes paramount.”
11 Alfred H. Paddock, Jr., “The 2006 ‘Divorce’ of U.S. Army Reserve and Active Component Psychological Operations Units: A Re-Examination,” Small Wars Journal, March 2, 2012, available at <http://smallwarsjournal.com/jrnl/art/the-2006-“divorce”-of-us-army-reserve-and-active-component-psychological-operations-units>.
12 Department of Defense Psychological Operations Master Plan, 10.
13 Neil MacFarquhar, “A Powerful Russian Weapon: The Spread of False Stories,” New York Times, August 28, 2016, available at <www.nytimes.com/2016/08/29/world/europe/russia-sweden-disinformation.html?_r=0>.
14 Bob Portman, “President Signs Portman-Murphy Counter-Propaganda Bill into Law,” December 23, 2016, available at <www.portman.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2016/12/president-signs-portman-murphy-counter-propaganda-bill-into-law>.
15 JP 3-0 states: simplicity is to increase the probability that plans and operations will be executed as intended by preparing clear, uncomplicated plans and concise orders. . . . mass is to concentrate the effects of combat power at the most advantageous place and time to produce decisive results. In order to achieve mass, appropriate joint force capabilities are integrated and synchronized where they will have a decisive effect in a short period of time. Mass often must be sustained to have the desired effect. Massing effects of combat power, rather than concentrating forces, can enable even numerically inferior forces to produce decisive results and minimize human losses and waste of resources. Currently, influence efforts are not simplistic because they are being done by many organizations with no unity of effort, therefore creating issues with massing influence efforts against various adversaries, state and nonstate.
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2023.05.10 15:23 Atoraxic The Need for an Innovative Joint Psychological Warfare Force Structure​ By Richard B. Davenport Joint Force Quarterly 88.

The Need for an Innovative Joint Psychological Warfare Force Structure​By Richard B. Davenport Joint Force Quarterly 88

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Jan. 10, 2018 —Download PDF Lieutenant Colonel Richard B. Davenport, USA, is the Chief of Training for Psychological Operations at the U.S. Army John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School. Twenty-first-century warfare—where hearts, minds, and opinion are, perhaps, more important than kinetic force projection—is guided by a new and vital dimension, namely the belief that whose story wins may be more important than whose army wins. This is especially true if one avoids kinetic engagement altogether. —Stefan Halper, China: The Three Warfares
It has been over 30 years since the first Department of Defense (DOD) Psychological Operations (PSYOP) Master Plan was published in 1985, advocating for a permanent joint psychological warfare element. Such an element could provide “DOD-wide psychological operations with strategic focus and the capability to orchestrate and coordinate the military PSYOP effort in conjunction with other U.S. Government agencies.”1 Since then, the authors of numerous other documents and members of working groups such as Unified Quest 2015 and 2016 have all advocated for some type of strategic influence command that could specifically align, synchronize, harmonize, unify, integrate, improve, counter, collaborate, direct, and deconflict all forms of influence and persuasion efforts among all elements of diplomacy, informational, military, and economic (DIME), and joint, interorganizational, and multinational organizations (JIMs).2 However, even with all of these voices and efforts spanning many decades, such an organization has not come to fruition. 📷 Army Reserve Soldiers with U.S. Army Civil Affairs and Psychological Operations Command (Airborne) board CASA 212 aircraft during night airborne operation at Camp Mackall Airfield, North Carolina, March 12, 2013 (U.S. Army/Jacquelyn R. Slaughter)
Today, the current operational environment and information environment have fragmented and decentralized, causing ethnic, racial, religious, national, and tribal differences to increase and fostering complex hybrid warfare types of conflicts and scenarios all over the globe.3 To this mix we must factor in the growing and effective psychological warfare capabilities of the likes of China, which has a “Strategic Support Force . . . elevated to an equal footing with China’s other military services, the army, navy, air force”; Russia, which has “built up its muscle by forming a new branch of the military—information warfare troops”; and the so-called Islamic State (IS), which employs sophisticated propaganda efforts. Given these developments, there has never been a greater historical need and better opportunity to create this strategic joint influence organization and subsequent total joint influence force structure.4
This article lays out the evolution of psychological warfare (PSYWAR) as an organization and demonstrates the need to create three strategic influence organizations: a new Joint Influence Warfare Element (JIWE) to operate at the National Security Council, DOD, and Department of State levels; a subunified Joint Influence Warfare Command (JIWC) to operate at the DOD and Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) levels; and Theater Director of Influence (TDI) organizations to operate at the geographic combatant command (GCCMD) levels.5

Struggle and Evolution of Unified Strategic PSYWAR​

American PSYWAR has a long and storied history that can be traced back to the Revolutionary War, when Colonial forces threw strips of paper (containing promises of more money, food, land, and freedom) tied to rocks at Redcoats to induce surrenders.6 Today, DOD influence efforts are taking place in Syria and Iraq supporting Operation Inherent Resolve, with various technological dissemination platforms and messages being used to reach select foreign target audiences. The current PSYOP force structure dates to World War II, when PSYWAR was first officially institutionalized and formalized with the 1942 formation of the Psychological Warfare Branch, Allied Force Headquarters (PWB/AFHQ), which was led by the “father” of U.S. PSYWAR, Major General Robert A. McClure. The PWB/AFHQ supported PSYWAR efforts in North Africa, Sicily, Italy, and southern France; in 1944, the Psychological Warfare Division, Supreme Headquarters Allied European Forces, was created by General Dwight D. Eisenhower to conduct PSYWAR in the European theater.7 Some of today’s PSYOP units can trace their lineage to those original organizations. However, today’s DOD influence force structure, specifically at the strategic level, has issues that need to be addressed and corrected.
Strategic influence has always been a problematic reality not only for DOD but also for the U.S. Government as a whole. In 1953, the U.S. Government under President Eisenhower established the United States Information Agency (USIA). The agency was highly successful for decades during the Cold War until it was officially shut down in 1999. It had a massive $2 billion annual budget focused on the ability “to streamline the U.S. government’s overseas information programs, and make them more effective” in speaking to the values and truths about the United States and countering the propaganda coming from Soviet active measures in about 150 different countries.8
The disestablishment of the USIA in 1999 created a void in the U.S. Government efforts for global strategic messaging that allowed adversarial states and nonstates the opportunity to dominate the narrative in multiple regions. This conceded global strategic space was then only contested through disorganized U.S. counternarratives that had no true unity of effort or synchronization. What made this problematic for DOD was that there was no strategic military organization that could act as a backstop or complementary function to conduct strategic influence planning and global synchronization. Some of these realities date back to the 1980s when the first major overhaul of U.S. military PSYOP took place.
The first modern-day overhaul and restructuring of the PSYWAR organization started during the Ronald Reagan era. An official directive came from the 1984 Presidential order that directed Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger to rebuild military PSYOP capabilities. This was followed by the development of the 1985 DOD PSYOP Master Plan, which Secretary Weinberger approved. One of the key findings by the Service authors of the PSYOP Master Plan was that subordination of PSYOP to special operations forces (SOF) was believed to detract from the recognition of the overall applicability of PSYOP in times of peace, crisis, and war. However, at that time PSYOP as an organization was a part of the 1st Special Operations Command at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. In 1987, General Jim Lindsay, USA, the first commander of the U.S. Special Operations Command (USSOCOM), lobbied to overturn Secretary Weinberger’s decision on separation of PSYOP from SOF, as did the Army staff and Joint Staff. This decision was due to the loss of all Active component (AC) and Reserve component (RC) PSYOP units and all the congressional money for PSYOP, which would have made it more difficult to justify a four-star command. Secretary Weinberger then reversed his decision and assigned Army and Air Force AC and RC PSYOP units to USSOCOM.9 One could argue that since that decision, DOD has not had a true strategic influence command to plan, develop, manage, synchronize, and deconflict all influence activities. This has fostered a disorganized DOD-wide influence force structure with no true unity of influence command and with inadequate operational procedures for addressing transregional influence activities in the operational environment.10
Since 1987, Army PSYOP has fallen under USSOCOM and the U.S. Army Special Operations Command (USASOC). Part of the command structure at that time involved one AC and two RC PSYOP groups—the AC 4th PSYOP Group and the RC 2nd and 7th PSYOP Group, which fell under the U.S. Army Civil Affairs and Psychological Operations Command (USACAPOC), subordinate to USASOC. From a unity of command perspective, this was not a bad solution in that all of AC and RC PSYOP fell under one unified command structure. However, this changed with the events of September 11, 2001, and all the subsequent deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan. Due to issues with long mobilizations of the RC PSYOP forces, in 2006 Deputy Secretary of Defense Gordon England signed a memorandum that reassigned RC PSYOP units from USSOCOM to the U.S. Army Reserve Command.11 This made the 4th PSYOP Group support primarily AC SOF. It also made both 2nd and 7th PSYOP Groups support AC general purpose forces, which was problematic because of a lack of year-round training support to AC forces on Active duty. Finally, it broke up true unity of command for all of PSYOP. Other dysfunctional influence efforts were coming from the information operations (IO) force structure.
Another byproduct of September 11 was the continued growth and solidification of the IO force. During the late 1990s, IO was a nascent idea where officers were selected to fill field support team positions at the corps and division levels. However, these positions were rarely filled, and the idea of synchronizing information-related capabilities was not well organized or managed by any one organization throughout DOD. In the late 1990s, the Army G3 reached out to the U.S. Army John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School (SWCS), which at that time was the overall proponent for SOF, to see if SOF would want to take control of synchronizing information-related capabilities and filling the role of field support teams at corps and divisions. SWCS rejected the idea, and the Army G3 began formalizing the IO organization as well as creating a functional area for IO officers. Today, the IO force structure falls under U.S. Army Cyber Command. The ultimate issue has been a lack of true unity of command that could provide the leadership, vision, guidance, management, and synchronization of all influence efforts across not only the Army but also joint, DOD, and interagency elements.
The first idea for a strategic joint-level organization that could plan, coordinate, and synchronize influence operations began with the 1985 and 1990 DOD PSYOP Master Plans, which advocated for the creation of a Joint PSYOP Center. There were several key features and recommended functions. The plan would:
However, this type of joint influence organization as originally conceived would not come to fruition until 2004, when the Joint Psychological Support Element (JPSE) was established. But decisions were made to keep the organization under the command and control of USSOCOM and not the JCS. Additionally, the JPSE (which was renamed the Joint Military Information Support Command [JMISC] in 2009) did perform some of those key functions as articulated in the 1985 DOD PSYOP Master Plan, but the joint organization lasted only 7 years and was disestablished in 2011. It did not have an opportunity for continued growth and therefore was unable to reach its full strategic potential. Part of the decision to disband the JMISC was to form a new command at Fort Bragg, the Military Information Support Operations Command (MISOC), to conduct and manage worldwide influence as well as have better command and control of all of AC and RC PSYOP forces.
One aspect of the worldwide influence vision for the formation of the MISOC was to move the RC 2nd and 7th PSYOP Groups from the USACAPOC to the MISOC for better unity of command for influence. However, this was a short-lived experience; in 2014, USASOC reorganized the MISOC into the U.S. 1st Special Forces Command with the 4th and 8th PSYOP Groups under its command and control structure, and with the 2nd and 7th PSYOP Groups remaining under USACAPOC. All these decisions led to another strategic influence gap for DOD and no true unifying type of command for all things influence. Adding to these issues was the lack of accomplishments coming from the strategically focused Global Engagement Center (GEC).
In 2015, Major General Christopher Haas, USA, the USSOCOM Director of Force Management and Development, testified before the House Armed Services Committee on Russian and IS propaganda. Congress had recognized that our adversaries were successful in the art and science of influence and were asking the U.S. military why we were falling behind in countering those efforts. In Crimea, the Russians had been overwhelmingly successful in conducting hybrid warfare, which as its primary effort was the use of propaganda and disinformation to achieve its ends.13 On the other side of the coin was the rise of IS and its sophisticated and professional use of propaganda. In 2016, the Department of State responded to these congressional observations by rebranding its Center for Strategic Counterterrorism Communications as the GEC.
From 2010 to 2015, State had been unsuccessful in its online social media operations to counter IS global propaganda efforts. One reason for its lack of success against the warlike nonstate actor is that State is primarily staffed by civil servants who are trained to conduct diplomacy, not warfare. Additionally, Senator Rob Portman (R-OH) and Senator Chris Murphy (D-CT) introduced the Countering Information Warfare Act of 2016, which advocated for the creation of the Center for Information Analysis and Response.14 This bill was signed by President Barack Obama in December 2016 and became a part of the fiscal year 2017 National Defense Authorization Act.
These global organizations, however, do not have a unifying vision. On the one hand, the GEC approach to counterinfluence is using primarily Web 2.0 platforms. On the other hand, the future Center for Information Analysis and Response will handle both Russian and Chinese propaganda efforts using various other platforms and means to influence. The result will be no true unified joint influence organization that can synchronize and deconflict all the DOD influencing efforts with those coming from interorganizational and multinational influencing entities. Additionally, having so many interorganizational entities for influence and a disorganized joint influence force creates a complex approach to managing influence efforts and therefore results in a lack of critical mass for influence against adversarial states and nonstate actors.15 Due to the identified strategic influence gaps and lack of a unified influence command structure for the entire joint force, the recommendations in the following section provide innovative solutions to fix the DOD and joint strategic influencing force structure gap.

Solutions for an Innovative Structure​

To fill the strategic influence gap, DOD should consider the creation of a Joint Influence Warfare Element, a Joint Influence Warfare Command, and five to six regionally aligned Theater Director of Influence organizations. Additionally, a newly formed U.S. Army PSYWAR Command and all three Service influence organizations and entities would fall under the command and control of the JIWC. These organizational changes would ensure that all joint influence organizations maintain their unique culture and identity at all levels of war and across all domains and spaces—physical space and cyberspace. JIWE would provide the highest level of strategic influence representation at the National Security Council, DOD, and State Department levels. It would carry out specific influence strategy-making responsibilities with an effort on ensuring interagency, specifically State (also the GEC and Broadcasting Board of Governors), newly formed Center for Information Analysis and Response, and Central Intelligence Agency deconfliction and synchronization. Greater synchronization of a national narrative would be of the utmost importance at this level.
JIWC would be a subunified strategic influence command that falls directly under U.S. Strategic Command with direct coordination with DOD, JCS, and JIWE, and where all joint Service influence organizations fall under its command and control. The organization would act as a joint global influence synchronizer and provide the ability to primarily coordinate and deconflict strategic influence with national messaging efforts to include perception and narrative management. JIWC would also provide strategic advice and strategy options on whole-of-government and unified action global programs. All influence messaging efforts would be better synchronized between all organizations to include the GCCMDs, interagency, intergovernmental, and multinational entities. It would make greater efforts to diffuse crises, reduce confrontations, and counter all forms of propaganda, whether state-run or nonstate influence efforts, through Web 2.0 platforms. Additionally, greater synchronization and deconfliction with contractors who are influencing within various regions would take place. JIWC would be staffed with civilian personnel who have expertise in media and data analysis and in research and survey analysis, to include polling experts. The organization would have streamlined program approval mechanisms in place that would provide for efficient and timely approved influence programs for the entire joint force. TDI would be collocated at the theater level and support both the GCCMD and the Theater Special Operations Command (TSOC). It would be designed to be regionally aligned where it could support the conventional Regionally Aligned Forces or Security Force Assistance Brigades and SOF within the region. Each TDI would have transregional authorities and would coordinate for regional PSYWAR assets and dissemination and tactical assets, and would possess a theater Strategic Studies Detachment/Cultural Intelligence Element cell. The organization would also possess a hybrid Army AC and RC PSYWAR element as well as other joint Service influence representatives, giving it a true joint influence capability. Additionally, there would be a mix of interorganizational personnel, Army civilians, and contractors who would provide various types of support. TDI would have the capability to deploy from out of the GCCMD/TSOC location and be able to form a JIM influence task force if need be. 📷 Soldier with 303rd Psychological Operations Company and Marine with Marine Aerial Refueler Transport Squadron 252 watch leaflets fall over southern Afghanistan, August 28, 2013, in support of operations to defeat insurgency influence in area (U.S. Marine Corps/Demetrius Munnerlyn)

Conclusion​

This article has articulated the need to create an innovative unified joint PSYWAR force structure that can adequately conduct strategic and operational influence. The gap in capabilities has been evolving since the conclusion of World War II and the Korean War. Few successful strategic influence organizations exist outside of DOD and the JCS with the exception of the USIA. However, that organization was disestablished in 1999 and has yet to be properly reestablished in some way in order to fit 21st-century warfare realities. The State Department created the Center for Strategic Counterterrorism Communications in 2010, but after years of failed influence operations, it was rebranded the GEC in 2016. Then there was the disestablishment of the JMISC in 2011 and the MISOC in 2014. Throughout all these attempts and evolutions, DOD has never had a subunified influence command to coordinate the proper aligning, synchronizing, harmonizing, unifying, integrating, improving, countering, collaborating, directing, and deconflicting of all forms of influence and persuasion efforts among all elements of DIME and JIMs. The suggestion to fill that void is to create a new joint influence force structure consisting of the Joint Influence Warfare Element, Joint Influence Warfare Command, and Theater Director of Influence organizations. If these recommended changes are made, the joint influence force will be in a much better unified position to support and defend the Nation’s strategic interests against all propaganda efforts coming from the likes of adversarial states and nonstate actors well into the foreseeable future. JFQ

Notes​

1 Department of Defense Psychological Operations Master Plan (Washington, DC: Department of Defense [DOD], 1990), 10, available at <www.DOD.gov/pubs/foi/Reading_Room/Othe349.pdf>. 2 Documents advocating the need for some type of strategic Psychological Operations (PSYOP) Command that could properly synchronize all our influence and persuasion efforts include Psychological Operations into the 21st Century: A Critical Assessment (Fort Bragg, NC: U.S. Army John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School, 1997), 31–32; Presidential Decision Directive 68, International Public Information, April 30, 1999; Report of the Defense Science Board Task Force on the Creation and Dissemination of All Forms of Information in Support of PSYOP in Time of Military Conflict (Washington, DC: DOD, May 2000), 15–18; Dave Acevedo, PSYOP: Coordinating Worldwide Psychological Operations—Is There a National Requirement for a Strategic Psychological Operations Organization? (n.c.: BiblioScholar, 2012).
3 Global Trends: Paradox of Progress (Washington, DC: Director of National Intelligence, 2017), 26–27, 43–44, 59, 61, 110, available at <www.dni.gov/index.php/global-trends/letter-nic-chairman>; Mathew Burrows and Robert Manning, eds., Global System on the Brink: Pathways toward a New Normal (Washington, DC: Atlantic Council, 2015), 1, 4, 15, 19, available at <www.atlanticcouncil.org/images/publications/Global_ System_on_the_Brink.pdf>; Robert Kagan, “Backing into World War III: America Must Check the Assertive, Rising Powers of Russia and China Before It’s Too Late,” Foreign Policy, February 6, 2017, available at <http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/02/06/backing-into-world-war-iii-russia-china-trump-obama/>; The National Military Strategy of the United States of America 2015 (Washington, DC: The Joint Staff, 2015), 4, available at <www.jcs.mil/Portals/36/Documents/Publications/2015_National_Military_Strategy.pdf>; Michael Miller, “Hybrid Warfare: Preparing for Future Conflict,” Air War College, 2015, 7–14, available at <www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/awc/2015_miller.pdf>; and Brad Allenby and Joel Garreau, “Weaponized Narrative Is the New Battlespace,” Defense One, January 3, 2017, available at <www.defenseone.com/ideas/2017/01/weaponized-narrative-new-battlespace/134284/>.
4 There have been numerous publications on the rise and effectiveness of U.S. adversarial influence capabilities, such as Bill Gertz, iWar, War and Peace in the Information Age (New York: Threshold Editions Publishing, 2017), 281; Stefan Halper, China: The Three Warfares (Washington, DC: DOD, 2013), available at <https://cryptome.org/2014/06/prc-three-wars.pdf>; Valery Gerasimov, “The Value of Science Is in the Foresight, New Challenges Demand Rethinking Forms and Methods of Carrying out Combat Operations,” Military Review (January–February 2016), available at <http://usacac.army.mil/CACOMMAND AND CONTROL /MilitaryReview/Archives/English/MilitaryReview_20160228_art008.pdf>; Vladimir Isachenkov, “Russia Military Acknowledges New Branch: Info Warfare Troops,” Associated Press, February 22, 2017, available at <http://bigstory.ap.org/article/8b75...3c/russian-military-continues-massive-upgrade>; Charlie Winter, The Virtual “Caliphate”: Understanding Islamic State’s Propaganda Strategy (London: Quilliam, July 2016), available at <www.stratcomcoe.org/charlie-winter-virtual-caliphate-understanding-islamic-states-propaganda-strategy>.
5 Harold D. Lasswell, “Political and Psychological Warfare,” and Roland I. Perusse, Psychological Warfare Reappraised,” in A Psychological Warfare Casebook, ed. William E. Daugherty and Morris Janowitz (Baltimore: Johns Hopkins University Press, 1958), 13, 17, 23, 26. One of the first definitions for U.S. PSYWAR that was agreed upon by the Services was “the employment of any non-lethal means designed to affect the morale and behavior of any group for a specific military purpose.” Additionally, the Army defined PSYWAR as “the planned use by a nation in time of war or declared emergency of propaganda measures designed to influence the opinions, emotions, attitudes and behavior of enemy, neutral or friendly foreign groups in such a way as to support the accomplishment of its national policies and aims.” Lastly, Paul M.A. Linebarger defined PSYWAR as “the use of propaganda against an enemy, together with such other operational measures of a military, economic, or political nature as may be required to supplement propaganda.” Halper states that psychological warfare: seeks to influence and/or disrupt an opponent’s decision-making capability, to create doubts, foment anti-leadership sentiments, to deceive opponents and to attempt to diminish the will to fight among opponents. It employs diplomatic pressure, rumor, false narratives and harassment to express displeasure, assert hegemony and convey threats. China’s economy is utilized to particular effect: China threatens sale of U.S. debt; pressures U.S. businesses invested in China’s market; employs boycotts; restricts critical exports (rare minerals); restricts imports; threatens predatory practices to expand market share, etc.
What could be considered a subset of PSYWAR is media warfare (also known as public opinion warfare), a “constant, on-going activity aimed at long-term influence of perceptions and attitudes.” It leverages all instruments that inform and influence public opinion including films, television programs, books, the Internet, and the global media network (particularly Xinhua and CCTV) and is undertaken nationally by the People’s Liberation Army and locally by the People’s Armed Police and is directed against domestic populations in target countries. Media warfare aims to preserve friendly morale, generate public support at home and abroad, weaken an enemy’s will to fight, and alter an enemy’s situational assessment. It is used to gain “dominance over the venue for implementing psychological and legal warfare.” Today, PSYOP or military information support operations (MISO) are defined as “planned operations to convey selected information and indicators to foreign audiences to influence their emotions, motives, objective reasoning, and ultimately the behavior of foreign governments, organizations, groups, and individuals.” See Joint Publication (JP) 3-13, Information Operations (Washington, DC: The Joint Staff, 2014), II-9, II-10. The problem with PSYOP is the word operations, which are a subset of some type of overall strategy or war. A campaign even has operations or battles. PSYOP is a subservient term to something larger. PSYWAR puts it at a much higher level and also takes on a more serious connotation. The use of the term MISO is also problematic. The PSYOP community is the only DOD organization designed to influence and persuade. Information is not about an aggressive approach to influence; it is about informing. When we send B2 bombers to the Republic of Korea or aircraft carriers to the Mediterranean, are we trying to inform decisionmakers or influence them? Moving strategic and operational assets is an aggressive action to influence, just as PSYWAR is an overall aggressive approach to influence. Lastly is the use of the word support in the term MISO. This is problematic as well because it gives the impression that influence is subservient to other organizations. However, there are some cases when PSYWAR is the main effort and other organizations are the supporting effort. Ultimately, terminology for influence and persuasion against U.S. adversaries has always been a contentious issue among U.S. officials and senior leaders. We have gone from the term propaganda, which was used in World War I, to PSYWAR in World War II, to PSYOP during the Cold War, and now MISO during the war on terror, and yet they have all been relatively defined the same.
6 Daugherty and Janowitz, 60.
7 U.S. Army Special Operations Forces, Psychological Operations, A Historical Primer (Fort Bragg, NC: 3rd PSYOP Battalion, 2014), 12–14.
8 Gertz, 20.
9 Alfred H. Paddock, Jr., “No More Tactical Information Detachments: U.S. Military Psychological Operations in Transition,” in Psychological Operations: Principles and Case Studies, ed. Frank Goldstein and Benjamin Findley, Jr. (Maxwell Air Force Base, AL: Air University Press, 1996), 37–41.
10 JP 3-0, Joint Operations (Washington, DC: The Joint Staff, 2016), A2–A3, states, “Unity of command means that all forces operate under a single commander with the requisite authority to direct all forces employed in pursuit of a common purpose. During multinational operations and interagency coordination, unity of command may not be possible, but the requirement for unity of effort becomes paramount.”
11 Alfred H. Paddock, Jr., “The 2006 ‘Divorce’ of U.S. Army Reserve and Active Component Psychological Operations Units: A Re-Examination,” Small Wars Journal, March 2, 2012, available at <http://smallwarsjournal.com/jrnl/art/the-2006-“divorce”-of-us-army-reserve-and-active-component-psychological-operations-units>.
12 Department of Defense Psychological Operations Master Plan, 10.
13 Neil MacFarquhar, “A Powerful Russian Weapon: The Spread of False Stories,” New York Times, August 28, 2016, available at <www.nytimes.com/2016/08/29/world/europe/russia-sweden-disinformation.html?_r=0>.
14 Bob Portman, “President Signs Portman-Murphy Counter-Propaganda Bill into Law,” December 23, 2016, available at <www.portman.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2016/12/president-signs-portman-murphy-counter-propaganda-bill-into-law>.
15 JP 3-0 states: simplicity is to increase the probability that plans and operations will be executed as intended by preparing clear, uncomplicated plans and concise orders. . . . mass is to concentrate the effects of combat power at the most advantageous place and time to produce decisive results. In order to achieve mass, appropriate joint force capabilities are integrated and synchronized where they will have a decisive effect in a short period of time. Mass often must be sustained to have the desired effect. Massing effects of combat power, rather than concentrating forces, can enable even numerically inferior forces to produce decisive results and minimize human losses and waste of resources. Currently, influence efforts are not simplistic because they are being done by many organizations with no unity of effort, therefore creating issues with massing influence efforts against various adversaries, state and nonstate.
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2023.04.26 14:30 throwawaylurker012 Spectator Mode: Zombie Stock Birthday Songs & The Delisting Death Rattle (CROSSPOST as Relevant DD to BBBY)

Spectator Mode: Zombie Stock Birthday Songs & The Delisting Death Rattle (CROSSPOST as Relevant DD to BBBY)
TL;DR:
  • Although delistings can sometimes hit the market all at once, like in the dotcom crash or the 2019 Chinese stock delistings, on a case-by-case basis delisting rules are applied super inconsistently.
  • Despite different reasons, some stocks are delisted the day after while others for up to 2 years after first being warned. Staying under $1 a share for an extended amount of time can be a common reason for delisting across exchanges.
  • CUSIPs (like the ones you see on ComputerShare letters or perhaps AST letters (?)) are basically gamer tags that can track stocks from the stock market until after their delisting, as zombie stocks in the OTC markets.
  • The Sears delisting/bankruptcy had weird timing, just before the start of the Q4 retail season, big for all retailers including [video game stock].
  • Apple reseller Cool Holdings had been partnered with [video game stock]. Its stock got a shit ton of FTDs around the time it was at risk for delisting. It got delisted a few months later right before it needed to pay back [video game stock], who was dealing with its own financial issues and FTDs.

Sections:
1. Ulterior Motive
2. Hodl on for Dear Life
3. Grand Opening, Grand Closing: Delisting 101
4. (In)consistency is Key
5. Spectator Mode
6. Gamer Tags
7. Don’t Youuuuu…Forget About Meeeee….
8. One More Letter: The Delisting of Sears
9. Cliffhanger
10. The Dark Shadow & The Darkest Timeline

1. Ulterior Motive

In early 2008, months before the global economy collapsed amid rampant mortgage fraud and Wall Street giants Lehman & Bear Stearns were naked shorted into the fucking ground, the patron saint of apes Dr. Jim DeCosta submitted a comment letter to the SEC blasting them over fuckery they never talked about.

“Dear Chairman Cox and Commissioners,(The following text is something in between a “Comment letter” on steroids and my 5th book on naked short selling abuses; I haven’t decided which yet…
A question: in the case of the SEC’s “Delisting” process has it ever occurred to you at the SEC...the easiest way to “Bury the bodies (unaddressed FTDs) in the desert” would be to get the SEC to acquiesce to the demands of those would be “Shareholder advocates” pushing for the targeted company’s delisting purportedly “In order to prevent new investors from being defrauded by this “Scammy” management team”?
Does it not make sense that those DTCC participants pushing for delistings might have an ulterior motive for their actions that might be worthy of looking into?

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In the story of GME, we have seen how companies have been brought straight to death’s door, slowly poisoned through the onslaught of non-fucking-stop naked shorting. DeCosta had been one of the few to directly call “Bullshit!” to the SEC about how the delisting process may have been intimately tied to this abusive practice.
We’ve seen reckless amount of naked shorting in [meme stocks], and no less than the reckless amount of naked shorting in Sears that even a secretive Swiss family office in Memento S.A. called out as bullshit before it got delisted.

2. Hodl on for Dear Life

Before getting into any of the saucy secret ingredient, it makes sense to look into what delisting even is.
Delisting, or getting taken off the stock market, is the final straw for any company that you can buy or sell. Before stocks get delisted, many try to claw their way back from the edge of the cliff. It happens often, like Just Eat Takeaway (GrubHub’s parent co.) getting delisted this week. We don’t know if they’ll claw back from the cliff just yet.
Of course, many like Sears, Blockbuster, or Toys ‘R Us never do.

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Spikes in delistings sometimes roll through and across the entire market from time to time, for one big reason or another.
The 2001 dot com crash (Pets.com!) is one of the more famous Thanos snaps of stocks across the market. In 2002, the US passed the Sabanes Oxley Act (or SOX) that forced companies to do better public bookkeeping in the face of blatant fucking crime by companies like Enron and Worldcom (“When SOX was introduced, firms with negative information such as bad growth prospects or disadvantageous financial information preferred to hide and delist”). And in Sept. 29, 2019, the US pushed to delist several China-based stocks which evaporated ~$44 billion from the market. (Wonder if any apes can figure if this might relate to the repo spike or Fed bailout of the Gang of Six?)

Pictured: NASDAQ, NYSE
As companies on the brink of death (often due to heavy debt that’s come due) try to fight for a way back, they often push to do things like reverse stock splits, a common "means" of salvation.
Reverse stock splits means you combine several shares into 1, so that maybe 10 shares worth $1 become 1 share worth $10 (10 to 1 reverse stock split). This might help keep a stock price’s head above water and stave off delisting for another day.
Unfortunately, publicly announcing a reverse stock split can ALSO be seen as a very public "negative market signal" and one study found it STILL led to several stocks dropping nearly 10% in price even after a reverse split. Some companies try to pull back with reverse stock split once they're already been delisted, like AWSM, but it’s often already too late.

3. Grand Opening, Grand Closing: Delisting 101

One of the things I never realized from first trading [video game stock] (literally traded my first stock ever a year ago lol) was that I didn’t understand there’s more than one fucking exchange. (It’s called the stock market not THE STOCK MARKETS! FUCKING SHIT!)
But yes, fucking hell Reddit taught me there’s more than one exchange. And each one has its own reasons to delist you. Rules for the biggest ones, including NASDAQ (home to [headphones], [S A V A], BBBY, and Sears back in the day), include closing at $1 for 30 trading days (or get a deficiency notice) or failing to file periodic reports by dates specified by the SEC
The criteria for delisting depend on the exchange and which listing requirement needs to be met. On the other side, you have very similar rules for the NYSE, home to sticky floor, [black berry], [phone company], and [video game stock]:

...if a security's price closed below $1.00 for 30 consecutive trading days, that exchange would initiate the delisting process. Furthermore, the major exchanges also impose requirements related to market capitalization, minimum shareholders' equity, and revenue outputs. From a bookkeeping perspective, public companies must stay current with paying exchanges their annual listing fees due, while dutifully covering the significant legal and compliance costs associated with listing on an exchange.

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Once you have a stock on the ropes, you can have items like these delisting notices sent (usually 90 days out) that is seen as “the final nail in the coffin”.
Since more than 1 exchange exists (like the [redacted] at BATS, the mayo-dripping MEMX, crime-filled "Expert Market", or the badasses at IEX), exchanges generally have close-ish rules for delisting stocks off their exchanges. Different rules apply as to why a stock might be delisted across different exchanges but here are the main ones most of us know:

  • Don’t stay under $1 for a long time
  • File regularly
  • Keep a solid market cap
Surprisingly, one late 2000s study found of all the reasons, listing at under the $1 requirement was #1 cause for delisting for Nasdaq, #2 for NYSE. Hm…
Ok, sounds good! Well, just as long as the rules get applied, then investors can sleep at night right? Well, let’s hope these rules are consistently applied!

4. (In)consistency is Key

C’mon. You know the answer is already no.
Now look, there are times that it makes sense for exchanges to delist firms inconsistently: one of the biggest examples was the week after Sept. 11th in the US. Rules were changed as turmoil set across the markets, and delisting rules changed during that time as a result.
However, more often than not and not counting for major macro issues (like 9-11, the dot-com crash, SOX, or Chinese delistings), on a case by case basis it’s just not up to fucking snuff. In the late 2000s, the Journal of Economics had researchers say delisting appears arbitrary and rules are applied “inconsistently”, hurting shareholders and companies as a result.

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They said quicktapping the delisting "button" might have made more sense back in the day but delistings through the 2008 crash often burdened shareholders while exchanges mostly benefited (they argued delisting helped most to exchanges that traded the most volume). Delisting stocks sometimes makes things even CHEAPER too for banks on those delisted stocks.
They argued at the end of the day, delisting motivates the exchanges based on all they get from it, and delisting is always seen as reactive (“fuck em”) vs. proactive (“hey this company seems like it’s in a tough bind, let’s check in early”). And this hurts investor apes like YOU.

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Wait…How does delisting hurt investors like you? Prices can fall in half once delisted or liquidity falling off a fucking cliff (so even if you wanna sell no one will help you take it off your hands). Trading spreads grow (tripling often) and, of course, those aren’t the only reasons.
Even if you could sell, transaction costs of trading OTC hurt a shit ton (one study had its portfolio lose 20% just setting up OTC trades) and volatility increases a shit ton as institutional investors have to adjust their portfolios once the company gets dropped from the stock market.

But literally that’s not even the half of it. Other fucked up shit those Yale and Cornell peeps found:
  • Right after being evicted, stock prices freefall but volume remains weirdly high, with their 2008 sample finding an average of 2.25 million shares traded on the 1st day of delisting (!)
  • Inconsistent application of delisting rules, where some violate them but still trade for months or years later (Bethlehem Steel in violation of the 30 day rule for 157 days). Others get the ax pretty much right away (Mutual Risk Management after violating the rule for ONE FUCKING DAY)

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  • Bankruptcy delistings are inconsistent, with some being booted the day after (Global Crossing), others after a month (Enron) or others TWO YEARS LATER (Owens Corning)
  • Even when firms are caught doing immediate fucked up shit (Enron) it’s not grounds for immediate delisting. (Surprise fucking surprise)

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  • Companies can sometimes stay on even with no financial statements (Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac)
  • Penny stocks with high volume might prop up OTHER penny stocks that trade less frequently (the phrase they used was “Our data are consistent with a cross-subsidization effect…”)

Yes, it’s fucking inconsistent as hell why Enron can fuck its lower-level employees by telling them to invest and still exist, while others (like Sears) don’t get a second look even when they’re fucking entitled to one.


Exchanges deciding whether to delist you or not

5. Spectator Mode


Once delisted, stocks usually move to places like the OTC (over-the-counter market). And as we’ve seen in OTC charts, the amount of weird fuckery is fucking rage inducing.

I feel I need to look into this chart more. Right before the sneeze..
But you wanna know about something that even makes researchers rage about OTC moves for delistings? And it’s one thing that nearly caused me to goddamn fucking uppercut the SEC website in its taint: how fucking impossible it is to find easy & ready info for delisted stocks in OTC markets.
When stocks get delisted and move to OTC or pink sheets, we barely have ANY fucking data. Even many researchers said as much, and said not only does it hurt investors but it fucking hurts RESEARCH. How the fuck can econ researchers figure the fuckery (or even non-fuckery) on OTC or help prove theories to “make the market inefficient” if little to no data fucking exists on a such a huge central piece of it?
And many other issues exist in the "Upside-down" of delisted OTC stock markets. One 2005 study said the SEC’s Limit Order Display Rule which forces market makers to show customer limit orders in their quotes, doesn’t apply. But neither does short sale rules like the NYSE’s uptick rule or Nasdaq’s bid test (though, tbf, they say it’s hard to short sell in OTC since hard to freely borrow like in regular markets). And with no tick size rules, participants “...are free to use any price increment they choose.”

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When stocks are delisted, investors have some recourse TECHNICALLY apart from a fight to be relisted. One Swedish paper talked of the biggest, such as litigation against who was in charge of a company for not upholding their fiduciary duty to investors. Unfortunately, one Swedish research paper that they found it was only proven ONCE in court that a director did not fulfill their duty. That paper also found that until 1997, voluntary delisting put to shareholder vote was allowed but the NYSE struck that down due to “anti-competitiveness”. This could have offered companies some recourse to step away from the market before the exchanges forced them to step away, and the researchers said they should bring that back. And this doesn't even include worries from investors about dividends or voting rights.
But it happens, anger or not. Stocks are delisted and thrown into the OTC cellar, watching as the remainder of the stock market churns on without them, no different than a Minecraft or COD player in spectator mode.

Despite it being a game of a few rules, there are, at least some rules: For delisted stocks, both going into the game (listing) and getting picked off 360 no-scope angrily watching from the sidelines (delisting) have some constants. Rules…that track you from the ground floor…to the steps…and down to the cellar…

6. Gamer Tags

In the stock market, every stock (BBBY, [video game stock], Sears, sticky floor) has a CUSIP. It’s something that’s been posted about as well in previous posts on [other sub].Think of a CUSIP as a gamer tag; every stock has a tag that identifies it across the stock market.
CUSIP = Committee on Uniform Securities Identification Procedures, which you can think of as a gamer tag (usually all numbers) that tells you what financial instrument you’re staring at.

Just like in video games like Call of Duty Vantage (personal favorite of Kenneth Cordelle Griffin, full-time financial terrorist and part-time aspiring Game Informer writing intern), 2 different gamers can wear the same skin.

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Stocks work the same. You can have 2 Overwatch players play as Hanzo wearing the same colors (think BBI = Blockbuster back in the day, or BBI = Bricknell Biotech Inc. now), but you can differentiate based on their gamer tags.

The list of these gamer tags are kept by CUSIP Global Services, owned by the American Bankers’ Association and managed by S&P’s Global Market Intelligence. (Fun fact sidebar from an older DD of mine!: The 55 Water Street building in NYC is owned by Retirement Systems of Alabama, which houses our favorite fucksticks at the DTCC and–ding ding ding!--S&P Global.)
These CUSIP gamer tags help report on all US and Canada (maple syrup gang gang gang) stocks, US gvt. and municipal (municipal = town, city) bonds, as well as commercial paper (a finance thing you hear most often about as doused in the secret ingredient with respect to Tether and Evergrande recently). You’ll usually see these SEC relevant gamer tags at the top of SEC filings or at the top of your favorite purple ring posts!
And remember, these can also apply to financial instruments. In 2005, Sears announced to purchase for cash 7% notes due in 2023 and 2024. Those had CUSIP numbers too!
  • Outstanding 7% Notes due 2042 (CUSIP Number 812404408)
  • Outstanding 7.4% Notes due 2043 (CUSIP Number 812404507)
Sears’ gamer tag, er I mean CUSIP number, is 812350106. (This, well, may be important some other time).

7. Don’t Youuuuu…Forget About Meeeee….


Most of us don’t regularly retire gamer tags (I’ve had same one since GTA 5 came out…so yeah), but the stock market and the SEC does.
When German giant Siemens wanted to pull its shares from the US stock market in May 2014 and instead stick more heavily to German markets, after filing its Form 15F its ticker changed to SIEGY. But its CUSIP gamer tag (826197501/SI) stayed the same for its ADRs (American depository receipts) still trading in the States.

Fun fact! Siemens' old building used to be this one, the one used for filming the \"Steel Mountain\" scenes in Mr. Robot.
Why is this important? If you know a company’s gamer tag or CUSIP, you can see whether it’s the same company (and perhaps all of its financial shit) is the same thing being migrated from one place to another.

So this, dear apes, is where we come back to spectator mode. Just like any gamer can be playing, lose because of some bullshit (goddamn campers) so can stocks too, but this time it’s coming off the end of some dumbass SHF. This slowly draws us back to perhaps where this story all started for GME, the same story that played out for Sears.

Researcher Yu Zhang said historically not only do heavily shorted stocks generate BIG negative returns (price drops), they are almost most likely to be delisted. Just the same, our dear ape Dr. DeCosta himself provided a saucy letter on how delisting fucks investors once stocks move to spectator mode in OTC markets:

“In the matter of SEC “Delistings” of corporations with inordinate amounts of unaddressed FTDs my concern usually falls with...What type of a regulator would “Deputize” these criminals and “Enable” these activities? Why are these “Vigilantes” not forced to cover their naked short positions on T+13 before the delisting process…shareholders would gladly take a penny on the dollar as opposed to nothing.
Yet even this token form of investor protection is dismissed….When the Wall Street community gets a whiff …how much of this selling before these actions are made public might be abusive naked short selling with no attempt whatsoever to effect a locate or a pre-borrow due to the imminent demise of the corporation?...
[This allows] fraudsters to knock out any and all bids in a rapid fire fashion in order to trip stop loss orders, induce margin calls, render securities unmarginable, trigger delistings, decrease collateralization requirements associated with “marking to market” these open positions or to just scare the average investor into panic sales is totally beyond me…
You see the thing is, once a stock is delisted and moves to spectator mode, all of the weight of its death sentence hits it all at once. In the case of private buyouts, you usually don’t see that.

BUT…as Dr. DeCosta says, you expect many of these stocks that maybe got delisted to have these naked shorts or fails to deliver stick. In this case, the stock market doesn’t forget and neither do its records.

And remember, if a gamer goes into spectator mode, regardless of what game he plays, his gamer tag never changes while they're flying around, teabagging you like a horny ghost. And just maybe, if a stock delists, as long as its CUSIP is the same, then everything is still there…fails to deliver, naked shorts and all.

8. One More Letter: The Delisting of Sears

In August 2018, TheStreet.com (Cokerat Cramer’s site and home to Yahoo! Finance [meme stock] FUDster Brian Sozzi) reported Sears’ road to profitability was getting steeper. They brought up the “Game Over” screen soon to hang over the 120-year-old retailer’s head:

Go [redacted] yourself Brian Sozzi. Also your shelves look way too close to that door [redacted] (don't let them trip the sprinklers either plz)

The first step toward delisting is a "deficiency notice" sent by the Nasdaq if a company is in violation of the index's listing standards for a period of 30 consecutive days. Once the notice is sent, the company has 90 days to get back into compliance and stay in compliance for 10 consecutive days in the 90-day period. If Sears fails to do this, the Nasdaq will then send the retailer a delisting letter that must be disclosed to the public within four business days. Once the letter is received, the company has seven days to request a hearing with the Nasdaq listing qualification panel, which postpones the delisting process until a decision is made.

The worry had already been building in articles like this one: https://money.usnews.com/investing/stock-market-news/articles/2018-08-23/sears-holdings-corp-shld-stock. They had sustained for months.
Sears had $134 million in debt that needed to be paid off Oct. 15. Many shareholders, perhaps like Memento S.A., and workers and pensioners invested in the company were hoping that the company could turn it around with new eyes going into the mid-Oct. Investors’ call. But that never happened.
On Oct. 24, 2018, NASDAQ delisted Sears. They listed the reason as trading below $1 a share for 30 days. It closed near 0.38$ on its very last day.


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Sears confirmed the very same day that it began trading on OTC Pink markets no longer as SHLD, but instead of SHLDQ. In the OTC markets, one extra letter usually meant OTC, which usually means death sentence. Permanent spectator mode. The cellar.

After years of debt piled on by Eddie Lampert, Sears had never turned a profit since he came in. Barely discussed, Sears actually did have the chance to be relisted (as many stocks do), as long as it could raise its stock price over the next 3 months back above $1 and hold it there for 10 days. But we all know apart from Lampert and Co. gaping Sears with a bedpost of bullshittery, there was obviously the rampant naked short selling that drove Sears only a few months prior with 227% short interest.

The timing was insane too. Remember how Q4 is always big for GME? Many were left going wtf at Sears filing for bankruptcy protection and closing ~150 stores a week before delisting, when there was a chance they could have held on longer. Why? Like ALL retailers, they usually make their most profits during Q4 and the Christmas season, big for all retailers whether GameStop or Sears.
Instead, Lampert positioned himself to earn $200 million in interest from Sears and sold off parts of it for scraps to his ESL Investments. In the death rattle of Sears, we saw parts torn apart, with little solace for investors–much less the pensioners and workers–:
“In the end, only the Sears store real estate will be left. And it remains to be seen whether Lampert or other Sears creditors will benefit the most from that.”

9. Cliffhanger

Remember dear apes. The story of Sears and the rampant playbook of fuckery and crime used against it could have been the same for our dear [meme stocks].
Since [video game stock]’s IPO and compared to now, back when–TIL–Barnes & Noble used to own [video game stock] (wtf!!) before spinning off in 2004, that stock was being pushed as facing 2 potential paths around 2019: buyout or bankruptcy. In my other posts, I talked about how 2019 was the same year that Apollo Global–who had been shorting malls hoping they would fail–and Sycamore Capital were looking to buy [video game stock] on the buyout end, but also how financial stresses continued on [video game stock]’s end. Either the path of buyout or bankruptcy might lead to the end for GME in the form of delisting.

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In Feb. 2020, Moody’s had downgraded their debt, and Cool Holdings, which was buying their Simply Mac business, had missed its first installment payment to [video game stock]. On the ropes and in need of help, demanded that Cool Holdings pay back the total of $8 million it owed to it immediately.
We haven’t seen much of Cool Holdings in recent posts on [other stock] surprisingly. Despite being one of the largest Apple Premium partners back in the day, it also had a run of unfortunateness.
Cool Holdings got delisted itself just a few mere months prior, in Nov. 2019 by NASDAQ. This helped lead to that Motley Fool article only a few months later worrying for [video game stock]. Later on, Cool Holdings changed its name to Simply, Inc. and now–no lie–trades under the ticker SIMP. Its new gamer tag/CUSIP is 82901A105.) However, it ALSO eventually delisted.



But what about it’s old CUSIP and gamer tag? Remember how I talked about some companies doing reverse stock splits too late even after delisting? And I mentioned a company called AWSM?
Well, guess what. Before SIMP became SIMP, it traded under AWSM. And because it’s CUSIP/gamer tag never changed, you can still see things like this:

Nov. 2019 is when Cool Holdings releases a press release about delisting. You can see the volume has been picking up.

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Yep, that’s right. As long as a CUSIP never changes, you can track how the FTDs keep going. And in the case of CUSIP, which had a float of about 56 million or so shares around the time of delisting, it had a single FTD spike of nearly 1.3 million just WEEKS before its first payment to [video game stock] was due*\*. (For comparison, G M E had a ~1.7 million FTD spike around the same time, with its biggest spike being 3.5 million but during the sneeze. 1.3 million FTDs for a float of 56 million is BIG.)
Cool Holdings was delisted just months after a somber September call in 2019 by then G M E CFO Jim Bell. Media covered it as a death knell for [video game stock], and started to mention the “d” word: delisting. This was as, in the same breath, they talked about companies moving forward digitally (21st century?) like Apple’s then-release of Apple Arcade for nearly $5 a month.




Cool Holdings, once seen as a backdoor to Apple without owning Apple, eventually fell away. It was then later that year, when we saw the delisting talk push more for [video game stock] likening it to other competitors also driven into the ground like in Destructoid’s “Game. Stop is Screwed”:
Polygon provided some context for this massive drop by framing it against some snakebitten competitors of GameStop’s. Toys R Us posted sales declines of 2.2 percent in Q3 2016 before filing for bankruptcy. Blockbuster’s sales were down 20 percent in 2010 before it went out of business. Those results don’t necessarily prove that Game. Stop is doomed to fail, but history isn’t on its side.
Perhaps the most annoying was this article with a FUCKING LONG ASS HELL title like “We went on a tour of New York City's Game. Stop stores to see if the company is doomed to become the next Blockbuster Video — here's what we found”. Guess who they fucking interviewed for confirmation bias? Fucking “G. M. E’s marketplace is al-Qaeda’s favorite” Michael Pachter, what surprise:
"I definitely think it's a melting ice cube," Wedbush analyst Michael Pachter said of GameStop's disc-based business model. "For sure it's going to go away eventually. And for sure their future will be truncated and eliminated the day that discs stop being manufactured…"They just got a seven-more-year reprieve starting in 2020," Pachter said. "GameStop's got about 10 years before that ice cube is fully melted."


10. The Dark Shadow & The Darkest Timeline

The dark shadow in all this is that [vide game stock] could have most definitely gone the way of Sears, and been delisted itself. We could have had one of many darkest timelines.

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For [video game stock] what if Dr. Burry decided never to send that letter?
What if Ryan Cohen wasn’t able to buy back shares in time, and the stock got delisted before then?

What if DFV let the FUD get to him and think maybe everyone was right, and maybe GME was a dying brick and mortar no matter what his research told him?
Perhaps that could have been the darkest timeline of all for [video game stock]. In my recent post, we saw how Memento S.A. worried that Sears might be fucking naked shorted into oblivion. And the cellar soon came for Sears in Oct. 2018, when it was finally delisted. Who knows if maybe Oct. 2021 or Aug. 2022 could have been it for G M E? [Video game stock holders] woulda been routing perhaps till the end, before seeing its CUSIP/gamer tag forever sign off, caught in the dark shadow of the cellar it was boxed into.
In that dark timeline, maybe DeCosta’s words would echo darkest:
“If you listen real closely can you hear the sigh of relief or popping of champagne corks on Wall Street every time a U.S. domiciled corporation goes bankrupt or gets delisted by the SEC? When you see the displaced employees of these firms pack up their desk contents in boxes and haul them to their cars is there a sense of relief in the air?”

Simply Mac ended up squeezing about a year or so ago while it was delisted, squeezing nearly +25,000% in the OTC markets...this was never explained
Since my posting this the first time, we have now encountered both SIMP delisting and becoming SIMPQ, and now BBBY at risk of becoming BBBYQ. I really don't have a great way to transition this sign off here, but more than anything hope you all found some useful info from this post.


TL;DR:
  • Although delistings can sometimes hit the market all at once, like in the dotcom crash or the 2019 Chinese stock delistings, on a case-by-case basis delisting rules are applied super inconsistently.
  • Despite different reasons, some stocks are delisted the day after while others for up to 2 years after first being warned. Staying under $1 a share for an extended amount of time can be a common reason for delisting across exchanges.
  • CUSIPs (like the ones you see on ComputerShare letters) are basically gamer tags that can track stocks from the stock market until after their delisting, as zombie stocks in the OTC markets.
  • The Sears delisting/bankruptcy had weird timing, just before the start of the Q4 retail season, big for all retailers including GME.
  • Apple reseller Cool Holdings had been partnered with GME. Its stock got a shit ton of FTDs around the time it was at risk for delisting. It got delisted a few months later right before it needed to pay back GME, who was dealing with its own financial issues and FTDs.
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EDIT 2: Adjusting format so easier to read on mobile too, pictures
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2023.02.18 03:02 Silver-surfer123 Money Printing: The Monetary Evolution of Debasements Debt Equitization and Debt Monetization

Since the Beginning of the history of money there have been those that have used and abused money to gain or maintain power, but none so nefarious as a government defrauding its people of the fruits of their labor. Even as far back as the 8th century BC monetary debasement was an important enough concept to include in the bible.
“Thy silver has become dross, thy wine mixed with water!... And I will turn my hand upon thee, and purely purge away thy dross, and take away all thy tin"
While debasements started as the simple concept of decreasing the metallic value of coins, watering it down, while maintaining their nominal value, throughout history governments have found increasingly complex ways to gain revenues and reduce debts through monetary debasements. The one constant through time has been that the more complex and less understood the debasements were the more effective they were. From simple debasement's to the creation of the Bank of England and the Equitization of England's debts, to further Equitization schemes through private companies like the South Sea Company or the Mississippi scheme to the events of today, the complexity of the schemes has continued increasing, however the reason for their necessity stays the same; the need for increased revenue or, when credit is readily available, more credit at lower interest rates.
From the Roman Denarius to the Byzantine Bezant and to the currencies of today it's almost more difficult to find periods of long-standing stability than it is to find periods of debasement. Most periods we find in the midst or end of large debt cycles, oftentimes coupled with large wartime expenditures, drastic expansions of the bureaucratic state, or both.
"An even greater tendency for debasement arose from the growth of government expenditure and budget deficits which steadily increased with the consolidation of centralized states and the rise in the costs of warmaking and military spending... There were losers as well as winners from debasements, however, and whether strong or weak money prevailed often depended on the balances of power between those that held onto state power and benefited from debasements and those that stood to suffer from a sliding currency and spiraling prices."1
France 1318 - 1429:
With a nearly continuous stream battles during the 100 years war and a lack of support from the assembly and merchants the French crown found itself turning to a string of debasements from 1318 to 1429.
" Preoccupied with public finance, these emerging bureaucracies experimented with various revenue schemes... The French Crown was unable either to raise significant amounts in loans or to secure consent to tax on a permanent basis from French representative assemblies. Left with little choice, the French crown resorted to raising funds through debasement - reducing the coin's intrinsic value while maintaining its nominal value."2
The effectiveness of these schemes are often tied to inflation and inflation expectations. The less that was known about them the easier it was for the French crown to gain revenues from the debasements as their agents collected the old currency and re-minted the new.
"Since no information was released on either the debasement or the inflation rate, the public's expectations of the price level and inflation determined its demand for bullion and real balances. Medieval agents had to figure out whether an increase in the mint price was debasement, a reduction in seignorage, or both. They also had to form expectations about the inflation rate."2
Ottoman Empire 1444-1481:
The Ottoman Empire was unique in its initial debasements as it started a small series before it had needed to, building in a periodic reduction in the value of it's currency at regular intervals as a source of surplus revenue. The sultan had, however in his first attempt, made the mistake of not increasing his Soldiers pay with the debasement.
"The most significant incident of opposition to the debasements occurred very early. After the first of the debasements undertaken during the reign of Mehmed II in 1444, which involved an 11 percent reduction in the weight and silver content of the akce, the Janissaries were paid their ninety-day salaries with the new and visibly smaller akces. In response, they gathered around a hill in Edirne, the capital at the time, and demanded that the government either go back to the earlier standard of coinage or raise their daily salaries. The Janissaries were well aware that the debasements would mean a rise in the price level sooner or later "1
The Sultan was removed and replaced that year and though he returned to the throne 7 years later, when he restarted his policies of debasement he had learned to increase his Soldiers pay with each successive debasement.
England 1542 – 1551, The Great Debasement:
Though King Henry VIII tried to use the justification of a currency war with other nations debasing their currencies as the reason for his great debasements, based on his debt and wartime expenditures, it was in reality just another means of increasing wartime revenue. The effects of the debasement, however, were immediately known and felt, diminishing its effectiveness and making wartime expenditures even more burdensome for the king.
"But no good can be alleged for the most desperate of the war measures of Henry VIII’s ministers, the debasement of the coinage to provide immediate funds. The debasement of the coinage aided in enhancing the price of all commodities which the government was buying in great quantities to supply its armies. Prices were already rising in England before the debasement began, as a result of the price revolution, but the upward tendency was greatly accelerated by the debasement. The effects of the price revolution and of the debasement are so inextricably connected ion Edward VI’s and Mary’s reigns that it does not seem possible to disentangle them. But the general rise in prices due to the two causes was serious for the government. Inasmuch as the crown lands were rented on long term leases, it was not possible for the government to increase its rentals at once to correspond with the lower value of money. Similarly for the other revenues. There was a kind of poetic justice in the Situation. The crown cheated the people to get immediate funds; it had to take back the poor money in payment of its revenues at its face value; it had to pay at increased rates for all its supplies; the real value of the revenue expressed in terms of purchasing power was seriously reduced."3
Ottoman Empire 1585-1640:
Though their initial policy debasements in the 15th century, during periods of expansion, were more linked to the growth of their bureaucratic state, the Ottoman empires debasements starting in the latter half of the 16th century were viewed more as a necessity to fund prolonged wars in a peaking Empire.
The protracted and costly border wars with Safavid Iran in the east and the Habsburgs in the west during the second half of the century began to drain the enormous financial reserves of the imperial treasury accumulated during the earlier period. With the outbreak of another war with Iran in 1578, the treasury began to experience shortages of silver for payments to the soldiers. At the same time, the changing technology of warfare began to raise military costs for the central government... The budget surpluses of the early part of the century had turned into deficits towards the end of the century. It is also clear that expenditures rose faster than revenues during this period. This new pattern lasted for most of the seventeenth century, eventually exhausting the reserves of the imperial treasury accumulated during earlier periods... The growing fiscal difficulties culminated in the largest debasement to date and one of the largest in Ottoman history that reduced the silver content of the Akcee by 44 percent...
The debasement of 1585-86 thus did not bring an end to Ottoman monetary difficulties. The period until the 1640s was one of exceptional instability for the Akce Each time the deterioration of the Akce reached crisis proportions, the government attempted to go back to the old standard or establish a new standard. These operations called tashih-i sikke (correction of coinage), were carried out in 1600, 1618, 1624 and 1640"1
As the Ottoman Empire carried out their debasements, without structural reform their monetary system and economic status continued to decline while they continued in their attempts to exit the cycle of debt, debase, and reset.
Holy Roman Empire 1618 – 1623 (30 Years War)
The period at the start of the 30 years war started like other currency debasements and quickly turned into a currency war as more principalities joined in the debasement, each trying to prevent the other from replacing their good coins with debased coins, taking advantage of the arbitrage.
Trade and transport picked up as a result of the increased volume of cash in circulation. Economic output rose, but the prices of individual products also went up rapidly. Those who had the opportunity to pass on the price rises to their customers did just that. Those receiving a fixed income, such as teachers or pensioners, no longer had enough money to live on. Between 1623-1624, the authorities started to revert to the old coinage system in an attempt to regain control of the ever-rising rate of inflation. 4
As with most debasement periods the economy picked up at first as people felt a surge of imagined wealth through the increasing currency in circulation, though as prices picked up and people realized what had happened the surge in trade and the economy nearly came to a halt as the inflationary forces and inability to gauge the value of money and goods caused increasing difficulties and hoarding of old coinage and finished goods.
The Formation of the Bank of England:
"Central banking in England rose out of the British government’s demand for funds to continue King William’s War in the 1690s, on the heels of the Glorious Revolution. Public confidence in the government reduced dramatically as a result of ongoing war and rising military expenditures. Private creditors became hesitant to loan money to the government in this time when revenue ran desperately low. In 1694, the British government accepted the proposal from William Paterson to establish the Bank of England; the government received its badly needed loans in return for granting special privileges to the Bank. Paterson further demanded that the government deem the new Bank’s notes legal tender. The British government refused, but Parliament did grant the Bank the power to issue new notes to pay for government debt and the advantages of holding all government deposits...
Two years after its founding, the Bank experienced its first experiment with suspending payments, an act that foreshadowed the Bank’s enormous influence in the future. To buy government debt, the Bank of England issued £760,000 in bank notes, which immediately caused inflationary effects on the British economy. A run on the Bank ensued, and the central bank became insolvent. In May 1696, Parliament allowed the Bank to suspend payments of specie. In other words, the Bank could refuse to pay its “contractual obligations of redeeming its notes in gold…yet in operation, issuing notes and enforcing payments upon its own debtors.” Accordingly, the Bank of England suspended specie payments, effecting a severe depreciation of bank notes in circulation because of the uncertainty of the Bank in the future to resume payments in gold. Specie payments resumed two years later, but the early history of the Bank continued to be plagued with a record of periodic suspensions of payment, and Parliament continued to grant special privileges to the Bank to serve the interests of government revenue.
In 1708, the Bank of England received a generous gift from the British government. During a war with Louis XIV, Parliament restricted associations and banks of more than six individuals from engaging in banking business in England. This act essentially granted the Bank a monopoly over the issuing of bank notes; its only competitors afterward were small country banks of fewer than seven partners. Creditors were thus limited to storing their money at these small banks or with the Bank of England. The Bank regarded this monopoly over paper currency as essential to profitability, making concessions to the government as a way to protect and expand its control. The government, thus, had no problem with continuing to enforce the monopoly, because the Bank was a central figure in financing foreign wars."5
The South Sea Company and the Mississippi scheme 1711-1720
The formation of the Bank of England, however did not end the economic and Monetary troubles England faced at the time. England's requirements for increased debt at lower interest continued and eventually they turned to other more sophisticated methods of reducing their interest.
In England, an act was passed in Parliament in 1711 under which £9.5 Millions of the government debt would be converted into the stock of a new company, the South Sea Company. When Robert Harley, the head of the government, unfolded his plan to incorporate the holders of the British national debt into one company in May 1711, the House of Commons was 'ecstatic'. Harley was made Earl of Oxford before the end of the month.6
The scheme was attractive to the government because it reduced the interest charge paid on its debt from 9 per cent to 6. The shareholders were happy too because, even though they received a reduction of 3 per cent in the interest payment, they now enjoyed the prospect of capital gains. 6
At the same time France was experiencing its own financial issues and experimenting with its own methods of debasing their currency or equitizing their debt and reducing their interest payments.
"Louis XIV died in 1715, and the heir to the throne being an infant only seven years of age, the Duke of Orleans assumed the reins of government, as regent, during his minority... The finances of the country were in a state of the utmost disorder. A profuse and corrupt monarch, whose profuseness and corruption were imitated by almost every functionary, from the highest to the lowest grade, had brought France to the verge of ruin... The first care of the regent was to discover a remedy for an evil of such magnitude, and a council was early summoned to take the matter into consideration.
The measures ultimately adopted... only aggravated the evil. The first, and most dishonest measure was of no advantage to the state. A recoinage was ordered, by which the currency was depreciated one-fifth; those who took a thousand pieces of gold or silver to the mint received back an amount of coin of the same nominal value, but only four-fifths of the weight of metal. By this contrivance the treasury gained seventy-two millions of livres, and all the commercial operations of the country were disordered. A trifling diminution of the taxes silenced the clamors of the people, and for the slight present advantage the great prospective evil was forgotten.
In the midst of this financial confusion Law appeared upon the scene... He asserted that a metallic currency, unaided by a paper money, was wholly inadequate to the wants of a commercial country...
On the 5th of May, 1716, a royal edict was published, by which Law was authorized, in conjunction with his brother, to establish a bank under the name of Law and Company, the notes of which should be received in payment of the taxes. The capital was fixed at six millions of livres, in twelve thousand shares of five hundred livres each, purchasable one fourth in specie, and the remainder in billets d’état...
He made all his notes payable at sight, and in the coin current at the time they were issued. This last... immediately rendered his notes more valuable than the precious metals. The latter were constantly liable to depreciation by the unwise tampering of the government. A thousand livres of silver might be worth their nominal value one day, and be reduced one-sixth the next, but a note of Law’s bank retained its original value... The consequence was, that his notes advanced rapidly in public estimation, and were received at one per cent more than specie. It was not long before the trade of the country felt the benefit. Languishing commerce began to lift up her head; the taxes were paid with greater regularity and less murmuring; and a degree of confidence was established that could not fail... The comparison was too great in favor of Law not to attract the attention of the whole kingdom, and his credit extended itself day by day..."7

Soon afterwards, he began to 'lay open the plan of the great and stupendous project he had long meditated.' This plan was known by the name of the Mississippi System... Under the system, the Compagnie d'Occiedent was set up, and was then granted the whole of the Province of Louisiana...The Mississippi scheme, in modern terms, was a straight debt-for-equity swap. In other words, the debts of France would be consolidated shares in the company...
In August 1719, the revenues of the French state were leased to the company by the Regent, for which the Company agreed to pay 3.5 Million Livres. After receiving all these grants, the Company then promised an annual dividend of 200 Livres on every share, the price per share rose in the market to 5,000 Livres. The 200 livres, at this price, gave an attractive 4 per cent dividend. Law, as the mastermind of the Company, now became the most socially desirable man in Paris...
The Company now began to lend money to the government. A sum of 1,500 Millions livres was loaned to the government at an interest rate of 3 percent a year. To raise this sum, 3,000,000 new shares were created costing 5,000 Livres each. The revenues were estimated to be around 80 Million Livres. Other writers made even more ambitious calculations... These prospects of immense profit... excited all ranks' to an extent that ' no nation had ever before witnessed.' By November 1719, the shares were trading at 10,000 livres each, more than sixty times their original price... The British ambassador to Paris , the Earl of Stair, was now writing to... one of the secretaries of state, in London with concern. Law, according to the ambassador, boasted that he would 'set France much higher than ever she was before'. France would be in a condition to dominate 'all Europe', while Law asserted that he could personally ruin 'the trade and credit of England and Holland whenever he pleases.'"6

"It was remarked at this time that Paris had never before been so full of objects of elegance and luxury. Statues, pictures, and tapestries were imported in great quantities from foreign countries, and found a ready market. All those pretty trifles in the way of furniture and ornament which the French excel in manufacturing were no longer the exclusive playthings of the aristocracy, but were to be found in abundance in the houses of traders and the middle classes in general. Jewelry of the most costly description was brought to Paris as the most favorable mart; among the rest, the famous diamond bought by the regent, and called by his name, and which long adorned the crown of France...
Thus the system continued to flourish till the commencement of the year 1720. The warnings of the parliament, that too great a creation of paper money would, sooner or later, bring the country to bankruptcy, were disregarded. The regent... thought that a system which had produced such good effects could never be carried to excess. If five hundred millions of paper had been of such advantage, five hundred millions additional would be of still greater advantage... [Some] quietly and in small quantities at a time, converted their notes into specie, and sent it away to foreign countries. They also bought as much as they could conveniently carry of plate and expensive jewelry, and sent it secretly away to England or to Holland. Vermalet, a jobber, who sniffed the coming storm, procured gold and silver coin to the amount of nearly a million of livres, which he packed in a farmer’s cart, and covered over with hay and cow-dung...this system could not long be carried on without causing a scarcity. Notwithstanding every effort to the contrary, the precious metals continued to be conveyed to England and Holland. The little coin that was left in the country was carefully treasured, or hidden until the scarcity became so great, that the operations of trade could no longer be carried on... In February 1720 an edict was published, which, instead of restoring the credit of the paper, as was intended, destroyed it irrecoverably, and drove the country to the very brink of revolution. By this famous edict it was forbidden to any person whatever to have more than five hundred livres of coin in his possession, under pain of a heavy fine, and confiscation of the sums found. It was also forbidden to buy up jewelry, plate, and precious stones, and informers were encouraged to make search for offenders, by the promise of one-half the amount they might discover. The whole country sent up a cry of distress at this unheard-of tyranny... The privacy of families was violated by the intrusion of informers and their agents... He had established the inquisition, after having given abundant evidence of his faith in transubstantiation, by turning so much gold into paper. Coin, to any amount above five hundred livres, was an illegal tender, and nobody would take paper if he could help it. No one knew to-day what his notes would be worth to-morrow... The arbitrary will of the regent, which endeavored to extricate the country, only plunged it deeper into the mire. All payments were ordered to be made in paper, and between the 1st of February and the end of May, notes were fabricated to the amount of upwards of 1500 millions of livres, or 60,000,000 sterling. But the alarm once sounded, no art could make the people feel the slightest confidence in paper which was not exchangeable into metal." 7
At nearly the same time as the bubble was frothing and coming to an end in France the same was happening in England:
"By 1719, the British national debt was in the region of £30 Million. The holders of the debt could not simply be forced into taking stock in the South Sea Company, but would have to be given an attractive offer. The basis on which the shares would be offered was complicated... As soon as the Chancellor of the Exchequer, announced the scheme... the price of South Sea shares began to rise. At Christmas 1719, the price of each share had been £126. By the middle of February,... the shares had reached £187; by March... £300...
The third and final subscription was launched on 15 June 1720. The price for each share was £1,000, which was a third greater than the market price of £750... During June and July, foreign investors started to sell their shares in the South Sea Company to reinvest their gains in new bubble companies which had emerged in the Hamburg and Amsterdam stock markets... By the middle of September, the share price fell through what market traders call a support level of £600. By the end of September the share price was below £200... a fall of around 75 percent in four weeks...

  1. Sevket Pamuk, A Monetary History of the Ottoman Empire, 2003
  2. Nathan Sussman, Debasements, Royal Revenues, and Inflation in France During the Hundred Years' War, 1415–1422, 1993
  3. Frederick C. Dietz, English Government Finance, 1485 -1558, 1921
  4. "The German economic crisis of 1618 to 1623 (the Kipper and Wipper period)" Deutsche Bundesbank, Special Exhibit
  5. Scott Dryea, 'William Pitt, the Bank of England, and the 1797 Suspension of Specie Payments: Central Bank War Finance During the Napoleonic Wars', 2010
  6. Kwasi Kwarteng, War and Gold, 2014
  7. Charles Mackay, Memoirs of Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds, 1869
"Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely."
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2022.12.31 06:01 GoldyGoldy Written Review of the MacDev GT2

GT2

MacDev’s Masterpiece
And why I can’t recommend my new favorite paintball marker
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Author’s note:
I’m especially harsh in this review, because I believe that every single man-made object in the world has room for improvement (if scrutinized heavily enough). I’ve got just as many complaints with every marker out there, so please don’t think this is some unique thing to have faults or design flaws. You may think your own favorite marker is perfect- I can assure you it is not. No marker or company is immune from missteps, and as you’ll read here, MacDev certainly has their fair share. Just like everybody else.
It all comes down to what you value, and what you don’t care about. I just happen to personally care about a few specific things, and I don’t care about a zillion others. Some folks care about reliability above all else, and they often gravitate toward Planet Eclipse markers. Others don’t care (or don’t know) about the blatant theft of ideas and general scum-baggery in the industry, and so they shoot markers made by SP.
Anyway…
The MacDev Clone GTi has been my favorite paintball marker for a decade. I’ve owned five Clone GTi’s. And a Clone VX….and a Droid…..and three C5’s. And two Primes. And a Prime XTS.
And now a GT2. My new favorite.
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This marker has been a long time coming. Nearly ten years, in fact.
This drivetrain (bolt system) is old… in fact, the first version of this thing is 15 years old, which is about the same length as the entire lifespan of the fuse bolt for Dye (release of the DM3 until the end of the M2). That’s a long ass time.
The Droid started all of this stuff in 2006/7-ish, and then the Clone improved it. Then followed the Clone V2, VX, GT, and GTi. The Clone GTi released in 2013, and was the last of the line. The four (there’s 6 releases including the droid, but only 4 “generations” are counted) Clones were fabulous shooters, boasting one of the smoothest shots in paintball, and getting better efficiency than rivals- all while being ahead of the curve in ergonomics (with a modern-ish length between grips), making them a legitimate candidate for consumers.
Side note:
It didn’t hurt that one of the MacDev-sponsored teams was one of the best of all time: Russian Legion. If you want the best single tournament performance of all time, look no further than the 2010 PSP World Cup performance by the Russians, while shooting Clones (and rostering all the OG Russians, plus Bains and J-Rab). Back then it was a “race-to-7” format, and they didn’t drop a single match. The best performance against them was 4 points… and in the finals, they won 7-0. This drivetrain has a winning pedigree.
Anyway…. The price of both smoothness and (comparatively excellent) efficiency was complexity- lots of parts and o-rings for a user to screw up. This Achilles heel, exacerbated by the common idiot paintballer (and their complete lack of ability to perform basic maintenance), led to a giant pivot for MacDev and their markers.
The Clone 5 (“C5” henceforth, to distinguish it from the good ones). A completely new drivetrain, simplified to be idiot-proof. It shot harshly, had o-ring issues, and it looked like a Geo clone instead of a MacDev Clone (pun intended). A disgrace to the name! Their once-rabid fanbase, who loved how the old markers shot, were largely disappointed by this new direction. RL switched gun sponsors. Tampa Bay Damage did, too, after having been with MacDev only a brief period.
When the C5 (and C5s) didn’t work like it was supposed to, they introduced the Prime, and then the Prime XTS. New, even more robust (Infinity) drivetrains. Updated parts. Modern and innovative features. Harsh shot. Hard to recommend. ML Kings left as a sponsored team. Uprising also left, after spending their entire life as a MacDev team through 7-man, semi-pro PSP, and into the NXL pro ranks.
Sometime since then, MacDev started listening to the customers, who had been asking for the original clone drive (1-4) since the C5 had released. I was one of them, asking in a face-to-face conversation with one of their engineers, back when they were still testing the Infinity drive in C5 bodies (prior to the prime being released). Imped4now was another. There were more on FB pages and forums. If you were among those voices… thank you. It seems to have worked!
It’s as if the guys at MacDev just snapped one day, and said “fuck it, fine!”
They brought out the OG Clone drivetrain from storage, dusted it off, and slapped it into a modern body, with all those modern parts and features, developed over time on their other markers.
They did it- They gave the people what they wanted. They made the gun everybody was dreaming of.

This is that gun.

…and it’s wonderful.

I’ll separate things into sections as best I can, to go over as much of the marker as possible. I want to share both the good and bad, to give potential buyers as clear a picture as possible… because as wonderful as this marker is (my new favorite), it’s hard to recommend to others. Read until the end, and you’ll see why.

The Shot.
The smooth shot is immediately noticeable, and is just… the most pleasant shot in paintball. It’s softer than most, but not too squishy. It’s gentle, but gives you feedback. It’s just sublime, and in my opinion, the best-feeling shot ever produced in the sport. It’s exactly WHY the community has been clamoring for the return of the clone drivetrain.
Some people care about the shot quality (like me)- and some don’t. Some can’t even tell the difference between markers. I doubt the majority of paintball players have taken the time to seriously compare the shot feel of many markers (more than shooting a pod out of a buddy’s gun), so I’ll use an analogy:
If you’ve never driven a supercar, you’ll likely fall in love with the first one you own. You won’t be able to tell the difference between a Lamborghini, a Ferrari, and a McLaren… all of them will be so far outside the range of your normal experience and expectations, you’ll simply enjoy the drive in each. You may watch old Top Gear re-runs, or have posters on the wall… but will you really be able to tell the difference if you’ve never driven all of them?
The shot of the GT2 (vs others) is like that… some people just don’t care enough, or don’t have enough experience to really tell the difference between all of them. But if you care, or even think you might… you should seriously consider shooting this thing. If you genuinely don’t care, and never will… then I guess you should stop reading. The shot quality is the best thing about this marker, and it’s… I’ll say it again: it’s sublime. It’s the best.

The Length.
The length of the marker, while not ideal for some (everybody is different), is perfect for me. I’m talking about the distance between the front of the foregrip to the back of the frame and rear grip (and adding in the feedneck location for balance). It’s a great length, in my opinion.
The first day I used the GT2, I set up some cones to do some basic walking-and-shooting drills, target practice, and laning drills. I’ll sum it up in this way: I hit the target a lot. More than I’m used to, for sure. The amount of shots that hit on the “first pull” is something I haven’t had in years. It felt natural. It felt easy. I’m not a huge fan of the foregrip itself (more on that later), but it’s certainly the perfect length for me. I can easily sight down the marker, and I cannot overemphasize how easy it is to line up that shot naturally. Again, everybody is built differently, but if you’re an adult male… you’re probably going to love it right away.
Weekend #2 with the marker was nothing but matches played against local teams. I’m a lifelong D4 player, middle of the road at best, and I’m not the best snap shooter. But I was that day. I one-balled a guy. I got another with my first stream…. and then did it again. That’s not normal for me, and I absolutely credit the marker. Don’t worry, I definitely still suck… but I suck less with a marker that is intuitively accurate for me.

Overall fit and finish
The anodizing is pretty good, on par with other high-end markers. Mine had a bump though, on one of the eye covers. The back cap secures nicely, even if the milling design doesn’t perfectly line up (which is weird, since the back cap fits so perfectly overall). The sharp edges, famous on the prime, have been largely rounded. The only sharp edge is at the top/front of the trigger guard, which is (thankfully) small. The bottom of the rear of the marker (“snatch grip” area) is also not as rounded as it should be. Overall, it’s a very sturdy package.

Eye covers
The eye covers are a very, very tight fit in the body… to the point of scraping some anodizing after a couple of removals.
I should warn potential buyers on the used market: there will be scrapes/scratches on the edges around the eye covers. They are easy to fuck up, and hard to do correctly. Honestly… if they’re not scraped a bit, I’d have serious questions about the recency of the pictures, or the maintenance performed on the marker. My GT2 is black, so the nicks and scratches are much more pronounced… but they’ll still be there on lighter anodizing colors.
The eye covers do seem to be well-seated, and don’t look like they’ll accidentally fly off or accidentally get bumped off. Sure beats the 3/32” hex screw they used to use, for sure.

Eyes, Detents, & Breech Sealing
The eye wires are great, and the eyes fit pretty well into the plastic seat. For those of you who don’t know, the breech has clear plastic… pipe… things. They fill up the eye holes in the breech, and prevent paint from ever actually touching the eyes themselves. Mine on my XTS were great. On my GT2, however… they did let some paint through when I shot some crap paint (still didn’t touch the eyes, though). Easy enough to fix/clean up, so not a huge deal.
The detents are also a “sealing” part, but one of my detents was a bit stiff, and sliced a ball of that crap paint on the first day. I would’ve had a hell of a time diagnosing that if not for another marker having the same problem years ago- a CS:Pro (Nobody’s immune to it, not even Planet Eclipse). A few bends with the fingers to loosen her up, and I’ve had no problems since.

Electronics
The eyes connect via a short wire into the upper board, located in the body. Short wires = no chance of getting pinched. I like that. That upper board is super narrow, and runs down the length of the body to connect (via pins) to the lower board in the grip frame. Fun fact: MacDev was the first company to introduce the wireless frame/body connection (with the C5). I actually like the connection- simple and reliable from what I can tell (having owned all of the previous iterations, and having zero issues). If it ever does degrade, you could simply turn off the eyes and keep shooting with no problems, as the upper board only connects the eyes to everything else. The battery and solenoid are all together in the frame, along with the trigger assembly. Battery is a USB-C rechargeable, and I haven’t used it enough to really test the battery life, but it seems adequate thus far. Charging port is below the power buttons on the back of the frame, protected by a rubber plug. No idea if it’s a well-built plug, but it’s there. Can’t be worse than the M3 one, eh?
Board powers on/off with a super quick tap to the top button, while the bottom button is for the eyes. The buttons… are fine, except I can (and did) turn off (and on) the marker accidentally several times. I’m going to shave a bit of material off of that button to fix it… but honestly, I shouldn’t have to do that. Another owner I’ve talked to doesn’t seem to have that issue, so it might just be my fat hands.
Oh, and while in programming mode… up is down, and down is up. Ugh. This is a carryover from the primes, and one that never made sense to me.
The solenoid is… unique. Not many L-shaped solenoid assemblies out there. Also not many that have multiple seals open to air when the frame and body are disconnected. It’s certainly… unique.
It’s also over the top of the trigger housing.

Trigger
I…. don’t love it, and don’t hate it. It’s hard to see any adjustment point as it hits the appropriate backstop, so you just insert your 5/64” Allen, and hope for the best I guess.
In order to remove/swap the trigger, you first have to remove the solenoid (two 5/64” Allen’s and one wire). In order to remove the solenoid, you have to remove the main board (two #1 Phillips-head screws). In order to get all of them out, you must very gently finagle all of these parts out of the gripframe. Granted, this is not something you’ll have to do regularly (just when swapping triggers or cleaning everything after a direct hit). But I would’ve liked to see a different method of removal. I would’ve also liked to see consistency in screws for removing the board and solenoid.
The shape of the stock trigger is… plain. Not a fan. You can use XTS triggers and stanchy makes a trigger, which I’ll likely end up trying down the road.
I don’t love the trigger, but it’s fairly easy to adjust within acceptable parameters.

Grips
Foregrip is aluminum, and only mounts vertically into the body via a single 3/16” hex screw (the same size used on the GTi onward). I use a T-handle Allen key for this, and would recommend getting one if you’re going to be removing the foregrip often, or have multiple MacDev markers. While the XTS can be vertical or angled slightly, the GT2 is only vertical…. Although it is compatible with the rubber XTS foregrip (mine is on order, sold on MacDev’s website as a stand-alone upgrade).
I used a liberal amount of hockey tape on my aluminum foregrip, and it was honestly pretty great to hold. Overall though, I think it’s a rather ugly thing to look at.
The rear grip is comfortable, and helps keep paint/dirt/water out of the frame… but it has to be installed correctly in order to do so. Mine was not perfectly seated from the factory, and is a rather difficult process to correctly align everywhere. The rear grip is so close to being amazing, but is just a little bit “off” on fit.

Regulator
Under the grips, and below the main circuit board is the regulator. It’s largely unchanged from the C5 generation, and can work very well. It’s a pretty tiny thing, comparative to every other high-end marker. On day 1, mine had grooves in the reg seat (from the factory), and would skip from 300 to 260fps with the slightest turn. A simple flip of the seat mitigated that issue, and I had not seen similar issues from any of my previous MacDev markers before, so I think I got a weird one.
The C5 used to have arrows around the regulator to indicate which direction to turn your Allen key. Those are missing with these grips, and it makes me a little sad.
ASA
The ASA attachment points (two 5/32” hex screws) are among the worst in paintball these days. The ASA (identical to the XTS) is easy to use and operates just fine… but is the reason I got rid of one of my Primes, and my Prime XTS. The metal around the threads is thin, and can bend if you core sample. The ASA itself can rotate/slide around as well, if you don’t hulk-strength tighten those hex screws into the frame.
My XTS, a month or so into using it, started leaking from the ASA gasket O-ring during a game. I fixed it… and then it happened again the next weekend. That was the straw that broke the camel’s back, and I haven’t bought or used a MacDev marker since. I’m praying it was a random one-off issue, because I haven’t seen others report similar issues. I still believe it’s an easy fix to design a better one… but whatevs.

The Case
It’s a case, alright. Not a fan of the inefficiency of space utilized, and the lack of ability to fit a full barrel kit. Not a fan of the nylon mesh, which could lead to scratches on the marker. Not a fan of the whole thing, really. I know that cases are NOT cheap or easy to make, but it’s very obvious this thing was not a priority for them.

Manual
My GT2 came with a “QuickStart” guide only, and no manual. The manual is available online through MacDev’s website, so whatevs. I haven’t read through it completely to look for spelling/grammatical errors, but did see that the blurb about Dwell states that the Prime should be at 12ms max. So there’s one. It’s still not the worst manual in the industry, lol.

Barrel.
My Shift3 is… surprisingly good. It’s better than the one on my old XTS, which wasn’t perfectly concentric. This one is! It’s entirely the luck of the draw, so I’m very aware that not all of them will be as good as mine. I use a lot of different barrels, depending on my mood and paint size, so it’s nice to be able to add the stock barrel into the rotation. I just wish I could fit more insert sizes into the case.

Bolt/Drivetrain
It’s nearly identical to the GTi, but with very slight changes (modern rubber bolt tip, and larger volume chamber). It can feel complicated to a new user, and can be a pain to diagnose leaks… but honestly, it’s a throwback to the days of old, where marker maintenance was a thing, and you could dwell-tune. I think they could’ve done more to progress the drive… but it’s as familiar to me as an old friend. You could very easily look up 10-year-old YouTube maintenance videos of the GTi, and be all set to maintain and troubleshoot the GT2.
The big takeaway here is that MacDev did what customers wanted- no more, no less. When we all asked for the Clone drivetrain in a modern body, they gave us exactly that.
Also: On previous modern MacDev markers, I’ve had the rubber bolt tips break a few times. I ordered an extra tip ($5) with the marker, anticipating it to happen again at some point. It does come with an extra as well, in the parts kit.
But that drivetrain… man is it beautiful. Shoots so great, and I absolutely love how satisfying it feels, whether it’s one ball or a long stream. I know I’ve said it before, and it’s probably annoying at this point… but it’s my favorite marker to shoot. Ever.

End.

So… we’ve arrived at the end of the marker review. It’s got flaws, it’s got high points, and it’s got my vote as my new favorite. Why can’t I recommend others purchase it? And why is there a ton more writing?

Buckle up, buckaroo. Time to give you some backstory on the failures of MacDev as a company.
Remember those teams who all went with other markers, and left MacDev? One of them, Uprising, is local to me. Friends of mine have helped out in their pits on occasion, and told me some horror stories from NXL tournaments. Guns “dead on arrival” from the factory. Markers going down mid-point. Techs nowhere to be found. I heard none of these stories from players on Uprising, who (for their part) never bad-mouthed the company or their equipment to me, even when I asked about it. A random thing- I’ve seen uprising-edition C5’s sold on the used market… but never an Uprising GTi. As far as I know, those markers were the ones most beloved by the team, and were even used in tournaments after the C5 came out. Some of those guys still have their GTi’s.
Anyway…
MacDev has this tradition of making some truly innovative stuff.
Enclosed bolts on a stacked-tube poppet (Cyborg RX). Among the first to route air without macro line. Modern ergonomics, with the reg/foregrip spaced out (comparatively, shoot a PE or Dye or SP marker from those eras, and it’ll feel awkward now). Air pressure transducers. OLED screens. Tool-less bolt removal. Wireless and hoseless connections between the body and frame. Regulators in the gripframe. Serviceable solenoids.
While not all of these things survived, many are standard in today’s high-end markers, and some were featured on MacDev markers before anyone else. In others, MacDev was a very early adopter.
But then…
They had screens burn out. They had ill-fitting O-rings. They had transducers fail. They made changes that made the markers shoot worse. Poor milling with sharp edges, which could slice open skin (note: this literally happened to me). Terrible quality control. Markers dead in the box. Faulty software updates. And worst of all… they failed in customer support, and supporting those who supported the customers.
Store after store, tech after tech… seems like every few years, another throws up their hands in frustration with MacDev. Most of the teams they sponsored have left with bitter tastes in their mouth. Techs would not be given adequate parts to fix broken markers. Stores would support folks with in-warranty repairs, only to get shafted on the back end, when trying to invoice MacDev. Remember when they partnered with Virtue? Yeah… that was a mess, and ended in much the same way (from what I’ve gathered).
The latest example of this is with Ntensity Customs, who for the majority of 2022, were the main North American (US/Canada) support for MacDev. Listed on MacDev’s website and everything as the place to send markers for repair. This was posted by Shawn of Ntensity in the first week of December 2022, to the “MacDev Fan Page” on Facebook:
Hey All, it’s true.
MacDev and Ntensity are no longer working together. We were unable to work out a deal that would see us be able to support the community as we have been Since April at our own cost in the US. For some reason since we weren’t willing to continue to do the US service under the same terms, MacDev chose not to renew our Canadian Distribution agreement as well.
With the ending of the agreement quickly approaching, we weren’t prepared to sell anymore product that would be difficult to support, so it was removed from our website on December 1.
We’ve enjoyed being apart of this community, you folks are among some of the most passionate I’ve come across in more than 30 years in paintball.
Ideally things go better for the great folks at Immortal Air. They are awesome people and have the ability to a great job if they are allowed to do so!
The email is still active, we will still answer questions and if you bought something directly from us, you will be taken care of, period. Regardless of our relationship with MacDev we stand by our sales.
Shawn had been the most responsive out of any MacDev-affiliated company/store I’d experienced to date. Now they’re done with MacDev too. They were the go-to folks for GT2 stuff right after Cup, when everyone had questions about shipment dates and US Customs delays.
So, who’s next?
Immortal Air, the guys who make some very nice air tanks.
I’ve been told that Jon (of Immortal Air) has taken up the torch, and is getting stocked with supplies from down under to ensure they’ll be ready to support MacDev markers well into the distant future. Apparently, MacDev (or at least Bourke) is trying to learn from the past and prevent a total collapse of the company.
Will it work? Will they finally stop fucking over their own dealers and techs? Time will tell.
I’m extremely hopeful that the GT2 will spark a renaissance MacDev needs… because until this past World Cup (and the announcement of the GT2), I had completely lost faith in their ability to function as a company. It appeared they lacked a basic understanding of how to run a business, and were doomed to collapse. But with the GT2 being my new favorite shooter… I have a glimmer of hope. It’s renewed within me on each pull of the trigger.
Hope… that they finally figured out how to produce a challenger to Dye, DLX, F1, and Eclipse. Hope that they’re finally listening to the market, and are making something worthy of the fanaticism shown by their customers over the years. Hope that they won’t go quietly into the night.
A hope that, like a candle in a cold night, is fragile and flickering.
Which brings us to the next part…

The release.
If I were actively trying to fuck up a product launch and torpedo a company, I’d take a page from MacDev’s book.
Just before World Cup 2022, the MacDev Instagram account posted a Matrix-style video (reel). Green lettering dropped down the screen like a waterfall against a black background, until one letter hung in the air. “G”
Another video was posted. Same pattern. “T”
The third video, again the same. “2”
And that was it. The GT2 was announced in three short reels. No pictures, no description, and no other info. It would be a couple more days until cup, and unless you were one of the 2,000-ish folks worldwide who saw the reels (that number is current at the time of writing, not at the time of World Cup nearly two months ago), you were walking into Cup with no clue that a new marker was being released.
They had a small booth by the entrance, with a muffled GT2 for people to dry fire. I’ve been told that the booth was so nondescript that people completely missed it entirely, thinking it was a tech booth only. They brought a small number of markers to sell- I imagine less than 30, since serial number 30 is mine, and I wasn’t there… and my marker had to clear customs (meaning it wasn’t already in the country).
And that was it for the first day.
Some pictures started popping up online, but no shooting videos until toward the end of Cup. None. Trust me, I was scanning YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, and PBNation… nobody had any info on this thing at the release.
We had already seen multiple clips of the CS3 and DLS by the time the first GT2 shooting video came out- a short Instagram reel of Seb shooting the marker with the eyes off.
They posted two other IG videos during Cup: a quick marketing video, and an announcement of Seb being the new manager of operations in Europe. The latter has a description which includes the following sentence: “He’s gonna be in charge of the operations in Europe and we can’t be happier about.”
You read that right. They added an extra space after “can’t” and just didn’t bother to finish the sentence.
What the fuck, MacDev.
So anyway…
The promotional videos on YouTube for the first month were all from one guy: A customer named Collin Billau. He’s the only one who has put up anything of note onto YouTube thus far, and we’re in 2023. Collin is a regular guy, and has done a fantastic job of putting the company on his back. He’s got 44 subscribers at the time of this writing, but deserves more. He’s more effective with a phone than MacDev has been with their entire marketing budget.
I believe I was the second person to post videos to YouTube (two quick YT Shorts of me shooting the marker). To date, MacDev has not put a single video onto their YouTube channel about the GT2… or anything at all since May of 2021.
Hell, their website on day 1 of release also hadn’t yet been updated to allow customers to actually buy (pre-order) the thing. The optional foregrip was added mid-December to the website. Triggers are still not yet available.
If you want a lesson in how to NOT launch a flagship product, MacDev takes the cake. Last weekend at my home field, only one person I talked to even knew that MacDev had released a new marker… and the majority of them WERE AT WORLD CUP!
So… MacDev has a tremendous challenge ahead of them. I can’t help but imagine they’re on the brink of failure as a company, and need a successful product to help them escape this doomed fate.
If you ask me, the GT2 can be that saving grace… but it appears they’re doing everything in their power to sabotage themselves and this marker.
I think the GT2 is a fantastic product overall (credit to their engineers), and it excels in the areas I care about most (shot quality and length/balance). I’m convinced that if this marker isn’t successful, the blame is to be laid solely on the shoulders of whomever has been responsible for the (lack of) business decisions that led them here. May he be fired out of a cannon into the sun… or whatever similar suitable solution can be found for a Fucking Malady.
As for me… I’ll be shooting a GT2 for the foreseeable future, and will be available for specific consulting work after my NDA expires with Dye. I’m available at any time for vague rants and public comments about what changes I’d make to various platforms and business practices. I can be reached directly on here or wherever you find me.
Sua Sponte.
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2022.09.28 23:46 WhatCanIMakeToday Central Banks backstopping massive losses (Connecting The Dots)

Central Banks backstopping massive losses (Connecting The Dots)

We may be early, but we are not wrong.

We're seeing posts today about how UK Pension funds hit with $100 million margin call (Sauce) and these pension portfolios requested emergency capital to keep positions open:
UK pension funds have been hit with variation margin calls of as much as £100 million ($107 million) each, after sharp falls in gilts and sterling pushed mark-to-market valuations on derivatives and leveraged repo positions heavily against them. Simeon Willis, chief investment officer of consultancy XPS Pensions Group, says he knows of three different fund managers running pooled pension portfolios that have requested emergency capital from clients to keep positions open.
UK pensions hit with £100m margin calls as gilts and sterling slide (Risk.net)

🤔 Pensions trying to keep positions open? What's going on???

We also see news about how Pension funds would have faced 'mass defaults' today without BoE action (Yahoo News UK) and Mass insolvency of pension funds would have happened TODAY - Bank of England 'had to act' (Express UK):
The Bank of England was forced to take emergency action in a desperate attempt to stabilise the UK economy to stop mass insolvencies of pension funds today, it has been claimed. Earlier today, the BoE announced it would be carrying out "temporary purchases of long-dated UK government bonds"
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"Had they not intervened, there would have been mass insolvencies of pension funds by THIS AFTERNOON."
So, the Bank of England saw the potential for mass insolvencies of pension funds and decided to purchase long-dated UK government bonds in a bailout (see also, Reuters). (Unsurprisingly, SuperStonk apes caught onto this news too: The Bank of England will carry out temporary purchases of long-dated UK government bonds from 28 September until 14th October.)
Pensions caught my eye because apes (including myself) have been warning about how the SEC allowed the OCC unlimited access to money in pension funds and insurance companies (see The Fox is Guarding the Hen House: The SEC is allowing the OCC unlimited access to money in pension funds and insurance companies, Sept 3, 2022 and apes even tried to COMMENT TO THE SEC: Don't let the OCC use Main St money to pay off degenerate Wall St gambling debts! Aug 9, 2022)
Interestingly, pension funds in England are having a particularly bad time right now. England is part of the United Kingdom where rehypothecation is unlimited. (See The (sizable) Role of Rehypothecation in the Shadow Banking System, a 2010 IMF Working Paper, and my prior post on this Estimating Excess GME Share Liquidity From Borrow Data & Churn Factor 🤯.)
The (sizable) Role of Rehypothecation in the Shadow Banking System [pg 4]
Rehypothecation is when posted collateral (say, from a hedge fund to its prime broker) is used again as collateral by the prime broker for its own funding.
The (sizable) Role of Rehypothecation in the Shadow Banking System [Abstract]
This type of double-counting could be particularly problematic if the same assets are counted over and over again possibly from 4x up to 10x as explained in my prior post. That's a huge house of cards built by hedge funds, pension funds and insurance companies teetering on the brink of collapse.
The (sizable) Role of Rehypothecation in the Shadow Banking System [pg 6]
How did it get so bad? Well, apes have also found publicly available documentation describing how Goldman and Bank of America/Merrill Lynch would intentionally Fail To Deliver stocks and cause large scale naked short selling with the help of hedge funds and clearing firms. (See Goldman and Bank of America/Merrill Lynch tried to hide evidence they purposefully Fail To Deliver on trades during Overstock trial and "Investment banks like Goldman will loan out their own clients’ stock to hedge funds to short, as well as develop close relationships with institutional clients like pension funds, mutual funds and banks to get them to agree to let Goldman borrow their stocks for use in hedge fund short sales.") Merrill Lynch would call clients "the day of buy-ins to tell him the volume to encourage him to sell into the buy in to maintain the fail" thereby keeping (short) positions open. (Goldman Sachs played the same sham-close out game "[s]elling into buy-in negat[ing] the economic substance of the buy-in." [Sauce])
Instead of going bankrupt and getting delisted, some heavily shorted companies are surviving and thriving which is exposing the unlimited risk of those short positions.

🐘 CITADEL SECURITIES FINANCE (UK) LIMITED

We can't ignore the elephant in the room with all this going down in the United Kingdom. Citadel (various entities including Citadel Securities Finance (UK) Ltd) raising huge sums ranging from $600M to $1.2B. See I think Citadel Europe was threatened with liquidation for $600m - accounts to '21 have just gone live by u/habitualpotatoes/ earlier today:
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While Citadel is raising money at just above junk status, let's talk about banks.

Banks: down, but never out

Banks seem to have an infinite amount of money backing them. Earlier this year, u/laflammaster found Fed H8 data showing ALL UNREALIZED GAINS ARE IN THE NEGATIVE FOR ALL BANKS (Jan 2022) prompting the Federal Reserve to simply stop reporting the bad news: LOOK LIKS THE FED DOES NOT LIKE ME SNOOPING ABOUT (image 2). H8 Update. Biggest drop in unrealized gains of $18.4B to -$73.8B. Big banks drop by $15.9B to -$51.2B. Total Treasury/MBS drop $9.4B to -$44.6B, and big banks by $7.4B to -$25.4B March 2022).
And, when it gets so bad a central bank gets wiped out, it just creates more money.
Australia’s central bank on Wednesday said its equity had been wiped out by losses suffered on pandemic-era bond buying, but its ability to create money meant it was not insolvent
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Bullock noted that while this would bankrupt a normal commercial entity, the RBA’s liabilities are guaranteed by the government.
“Furthermore, since it has the ability to create money, the Bank can continue to meet its obligations as they become due and so it is not insolvent,”
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Bullock noted other central banks around the world would be facing similar losses on their emergency stimulus programs, though many did mark their assets to market like the RBA.
CNBC: Australia’s central bank has equity wiped out by billions in bond losses (Sept 20, 2022)
So, as it turns out, central banks do have an infinite amount of money backing them. (Obviously, the downside of printing more money is inflation.... ouch.)
The Bank of England is the central bank of the United Kingdom (Wikipedia).
Basically, Central Banks are now propping up the house of cards to keep positions open.

Remember, Positions Are Still Open

UK pension funds are raising emergency capital to keep their positions open while emergency action by the Bank of England merely stops mass insolvencies of pension funds for now (buying time until Oct 14).
What positions could the UK central bank be propping up and keeping open? Well, meme stocks (especially GME 🎮, but also 🍿/🦧 and 🛀) are all heavily shorted with high FTDs and extreme short interest where the only possible explanation is shares are owned multiple times through unlimited rehypothecation (with the exception of Directly Registered Shares as those can only be owned once).
As for me, I just like the stock(s).
EDIT:
See also ITV's Robert Preston on UK pension crisis: "These are largely leveraged funds...when they buy gilts, they frequently use them as collateral to raise cash...then use the cash to buy more gilts, then pledge the gilts again and buy more gilts, and so on..." Isn't this like rehypothecation? by u/throwawaylurker012 which explains the pension crisis is due to rehypothecation in the UK by leveraged funds. (Also, u/throwawaylurker012's comment below.)
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2022.08.11 21:43 hyena142 [Disney Parks] Journey into Imagination: How budget cuts, popcorn buckets, Eric Idle and Murphy’s Law sent a beloved family ride on a descent into madness

The Disney Parks fandom is no stranger to controversy. When you pit a rabid hardcore fanbase who never wants anything changed against a corporation more than happy to scrap anything that isn’t really resonating with the casual visitor, tensions are sure to run high. This isn’t just a bunch of old fogeys determined to prove the parks were better when they were kids on Twitter, either. Fans have been railing against Disney Parks management since the internet was in its infancy, as seen by the protests in the Magic Kingdom when it was discovered plans were made to replace Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride with a Winnie the Pooh attraction (spoiler alert: the fans lost this one). These days it seems anywhere you turn someone’s found something to complain about, whether it’s the upcoming retheme of Splash Mountain or something dumb an executive said.
But even considering that, the story of Journey into Imagination is a particularly infamous and bonkers one. This isn’t just a case of “ride gets changed, fans get pissed, Disney doesn’t care”, dear reader. The story of Journey into Imagination is one that spans multiple decades from 1983 to present day, involves several different revisions and bizarre happenings, and is all wrapped around a theme park that proved too niche for its own good, the decline of the film-based camera industry, a CEO in the midst of a high-profile disaster, one very annoyed British comedian, and above all a fanbase loud and proud about their love for a small purple dragon and his bearded buddy that have never once lost hope about their future. This is the Imagination Pavilion.
A Brief Primer on EPCOT Center
Before we get to the grand battle of Imagination vs Murphy’s Law, I should probably take you through a quick history of Epcot for context. If you’re not interested or already know the story I left a tl;dr for you at the end.
Walt Disney’s original idea for buying a ton of land in Florida was a lot bigger than just “build Disneyland 2”. Ever the futurist, Walt had grand plans to build his very own city. It would be known as the Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow, or EPCOT, and would be the perfect place for Walt to experiment with new technologies outside of the realm of theme park attractions.
After Walt’s death in 1966, his brother Roy oversaw the completion of the Magic Kingdom in Florida, before he himself passed shortly after the park opened in 1971. With both their leaders gone, the Disney company was stuck wondering what to do next. The plans for EPCOT were brought back up, and were quickly determined to be impossible without the guidance of the Disney brothers. However, the Parks team took some of the ideas presented in the plans, and decided to build a sister park to the Magic Kingdom. Instead of being designed around classic Disney films and ideas like their previous two parks would be, the park would be themed to edutainment and futurism, featuring rides that presented topics such as communication, energy, agriculture, health and the potential of the future in fun, Disney-esque ways that the whole family could enjoy. If Disneyland and the Magic Kingdom were all about fantasy and story, EPCOT Center as it came to be known would be entrenched in real-world technology and culture.
EPCOT Center opened in 1982 to mixed reviews. Some instantly fell in love with the park’s positive vision of the future and educational content, others found it sterile and lacking Disney magic, while still others didn’t care and just wanted to get a beer in every country walking around the World Showcase. Even to this day after numerous reworks, revisions and renames, Epcot has always struggled the most out of the four Disney World parks to establish an identity that would please both hardcore opening-day purists while still making it accessible and exciting to average guest Joe who just wants to ride rollercoasters without feeling like he’s studying for a test.
TL;DR - EPCOT Center was designed based on an old city plan created by Walt Disney and turned into a park based around edutainment. While to this day it has hundreds of fans and purists, at the time it failed to resonate with the average guests.
One Little Spark
Enter Tony Baxter, a lifelong fan of Disneyland who had gone from scooping ice cream on Main Street to a full-blown Imagineer. Baxter had recently made a name for himself as an up-and-comer at the company by creating the Big Thunder Mountain Railroad roller coaster, the first major ride to be fully designed and opened without any input from Walt or Roy Disney. Big Thunder was an instant hit and brought a ton of traffic into the at-the-time mostly unutilized Frontierland section of both Disneyland and the Magic Kingdom. To many, Tony symbolized the future of the Disney Parks in the post-Walt era, and all eyes were on him for what he’d do next.
Tony was then assigned to the EPCOT project, initially working on The Land pavilion before his ambitious plans for that fell through due to a last-minute sponsorship swap. He was then assigned to the pavilion next door to The Land, which didn’t have a theme or even a design yet. Kodak had signed on to be the pavilion’s sponsor, and didn’t have any requests for a theme beyond “something imaginative”. Tony responded by dusting off an old idea of his about a magical scientist and his pet dragon, and decided the pavilion would be themed to the wonders of imagination. The scientist was turned into the Dreamfinder, a whimsical inventor who studied imagination, and the dragon was turned into Figment, Dreamfinder’s creation with a childlike innocence who we would follow through the ride. The Sherman Brothers, frequent Disney collaborators behind songs such as The Bare Necessities, It’s a Small World and the entire soundtrack of Mary Poppins were brought in to record the theme song for the attraction, coming up with this: One Little Spark. The ride’s exterior was also designed to be two glass pyramids, inspired by an old design Tony came up with for The Land and quickly becoming one of EPCOT’s most recognizable structures.
While Journey into Imagination missed EPCOT’s opening, it opened a year later in 1983. The ride was an instant hit, being one of the longest Disney dark rides of all time and featuring state-of-the-art technology that put it above and beyond similar attractions. Dreamfinder and Figment became fan-favourites overnight, and injected some of that classic lovable Disney charm and personality into the park.
You can watch a video of the original ride here.
So…what went wrong?
Now That’s a Kodak Moment
A lot happens in the interim between Imagination’s opening and closing that’s important, so I’ll try to run through it real fast. The Disney company wound up listless in the late 70s and early 80s. EPCOT was their last major park investment, with the construction and operation of Tokyo Disneyland being outsourced. They were rescued from a hostile takeover by new CEO Michael Eisner, who quickly identified where the company was going wrong and set out to fix it. He brought the animation studio back from the brink, and modernized the Parks by installing new experiences based on what kids enjoyed today, including the films of George Lucas (and our pal Tony Baxter was responsible for the creation of both Lucasfilm-themed rides, Star Tours and the Indiana Jones Adventure). Things were looking up.
Until, of course, they didn’t. EuroDisney (now Disneyland Paris), Eisner’s big fancy new park he invested a ton of time and money in, was a resounding failure upon opening, seeing the company become a laughingstock in headlines everywhere and had the company see a loss. Shortly after, Frank Wells, the money manager that kept Eisner’s creative spirit in check, was tragically killed in a helicopter crash. With a huge financial failure on his hands and his partner in crime gone, Eisner knew cuts had to be made somewhere.
His gaze turned to EPCOT. We’re in 1998 now, and the park was struggling to maintain an audience, with many people tired of the repetitive presentations on now-outdated technology, and many of the rides, Imagination included, were beginning to fall into disrepair. Sponsors, who had proved integral to keeping EPCOT’s rides running, were leaving, forcing Disney to pony up their own cash to keep the rides looking shiny and new. In most cases, the rides that lost their sponsorships were simply closed. Kodak was willing to stick with Imagination, however they were in the middle of their own crisis, seeing losses in film sales due to the beginning of the digital camera revolution. Both strapped for cash, Disney and Kodak agreed it would be cheaper to completely retheme the ride rather than go in and fix everything that was broken, and Journey into Imagination closed on October 10, 1998.
And with most cases, that’s where the story would end. The ride closes, the fans get upset, but eventually life moves on. Not this time, though.
Your Imagination Sucks
One year later in 1999, Journey into YOUR Imagination opened, something of a pseudo-successor to the original ride. The Dreamfinder had vanished, Figment was present only in brief cameos, and One Little Spark was nowhere to be heard. Instead, the ride was hosted by a new character, Dr. Nigel Channing, played by Monty Python member Eric Idle. Idle had previously played the character in a Honey, I Shrunk the Kids-themed 4D movie next door, and was brought in to narrate the ride from a video screen to save money on expensive animatronics. The ride time was halved from 12 minutes to 6, and most of it involved trekking through pitch-black rooms as loud noises blared in your ears. Perhaps most bizarre of all, the ride actively insulted guests upon boarding the ride, as Idle’s imagination scanner declared the imaginations of all the riders to be completely empty.
Video of the black screen updated ride can be found here.
Reaction to the update from fans was…less than positive. In fact, Journey into YOUR Imagination was nearly unanimously considered the single worst ride to ever come out of Disney Imagineering. Fans despised the loss of Dreamfinder and Figment in favour of the bland Nigel Channing character, and negatively compared it to a wacky funhouse you’d find at a county fair. Complaints came flowing in by the hundred.
Journey into YOUR Imagination lasted just two years before being closed in 2001 for yet another rework.
Okay, Fine, He’s Back
The negative reaction to Journey into YOUR Imagination had been reported on by the press, and Kodak was feeling embarrassed that they sacrificed valuable money and this was the best thing Disney could come up with. Disney decided to foot the bill themselves and try to restore the ride to its former glory.
And then 9/11 happened and tourism took a complete nosedive.
The budget for the Imagination repairs was slashed from an already low amount, and the ride reopened just six months later in June 2002 as Journey into Imagination with Figment. While Dreamfinder was still absent, Figment made his long awaited return. Unfortunately, the slashed budget meant that the new ride was more or less an updated version of Journey into YOUR Imagination, complete with Eric Idle returning to film new scenes as Nigel Channing. The ride was now inexplicably about the five senses (although only three are explored), and Figment had been turned from a childlike being excited about imagination to a pest determined to screw with Dr. Channing at every turn. Riders were assaulted by sudden blasts of air and bad smells, and it all culminates with a group of Figments singing One Little Spark, along with the terrifying image of Eric Idle’s face superimposed on the moon.
Here’s a full video of the current experience.
Fans considered the ride an upgrade from Journey into YOUR Imagination, but in the way that a room at a shitty motel is an upgrade from sleeping on the streets. They decried Figment’s new, more hyperactive personality, the return of Eric Idle and the similarities to Journey into YOUR Imagination, as well as the continued lack of Dreamfinder, but were at least content that it was better than the previous iteration.
And…that was it. To this day Journey into Imagination with Figment is running at Epcot. It’s considered by many to be the worst attraction currently available in the resort, but that hasn’t stopped it from outlasting the original classic in terms of how long each was open.
But of course, that’s not where our story ends.
The Aftermath
Eventually it sank in that Journey into Imagination with Figment was here to stay, and Epcot purists just kinda gave up. The Imagination pavilion now just kinda sits in a forgotten corner of Epcot, with the ride rarely getting wait times above 15 minutes, the 4D movie replaced by a glorified Pixar shorts DVD, and with many of its interactive games and exhibits long since gone out of order. Figment would later have a blink-and-you’ll-miss-it cameo in Pixar’s Inside Out (according to rumours director Pete Docter is a huge fan of the original ride and put the kibosh on a supposed retheme that would feature the Inside Out characters), and the Dreamfinder returned alongside Figment in a well-received comic series that reimagined the world of Imagination as a steampunk city and gave the pair an origin story.
As for the people involved, Tony Baxter retired some time ago as one of Disney’s most legendary Imagineers, although he recently made a return to the company to consult on the retheme of Splash Mountain, another one of his creations. He has stated multiple times that he'd be happy to come out of retirement again for Journey into Imagination. Michael Eisner was ousted from Disney in 2006 after he became increasingly budget-conscious, to the point that it was beginning to harm the Disney brand. Kodak finally ended its sponsorship of the ride in 2010.
Figment himself would experience something of a renaissance in merchandise, frequently being used as the mascot character of Epcot and its many festivals. It’s now easier than ever to pick up something with Figment’s face on it. In 2019 a large retheme of Epcot was announced, and hints and rumours began to swirl that Imagination would be involved, but as is tradition if there was something in the works, something went wrong to get in the way, as the arrival of COVID forced Disney to slam on the brakes for most of the new experiences. With the next D23 coming up in September, many fans are hoping something gets announced for the little purple dragon.
Oh, and starting in 2020, Figment got to wear a Christmas sweater in December.
That’s a nice ending, right? Sure, the ride’s sucked for nearly 20 years now, but Figment’s more popular than ever and the fans still have hope for a return to form. There’s nothing else to the story, is there?
And Then It Got Strange
And by strange, I don’t mean Figment’s cameo in Stranger Things 4.
In January 2021, someone on Twitter sent Eric Idle an image of Figment, asking if there were any plans to work with him again in the future. Idle responded that he enjoyed working with Don Rickles, seemingly confusing Figment with the dragon he voiced in the 1998 animated film Quest for Camelot. When reminded of Figment, he explained that he had forgotten about him and that he’d never ridden the finished ride.
He then had this to say.
To say fans lost their minds in the best way was an understatement. Memes upon memes of animated little fucker were everywhere in the Disney Parks fandom, as Idle realized he had a good bit here and continued to double down on the Figment hate, concluding it with this message for Disney fans.
But it wasn’t enough to quench the thirst for more Figment. Roughly a year later in January 2022, Disney debuted an adorable Figment popcorn bucket, and fans once again lost their minds. Everyone had to have one. Everyone had to post about how they had one. Lines stretched for well over six hours, as the Figments were only available at one specific stand in the entire park. Even CNN picked up the story.
And then, as they do, the scalpers hit the park. Figments were going for well over their asking price on eBay. People on both sides got pretty heated, so one fan took it upon themselves to make it fun. This drawing of Figment (plus a bag of microwave popcorn) went live on eBay, with all proceeds going to Habitat for Humanity. It kept going up and reached about $600 in bids until some scammers messed with the listing with fraud bids and forced it to be taken down, but some photocopies as well as the original were sent out to the original bidders.
Of course, Mr. Idle took notice of his old pal being in the news again, and the artists of the internet did what they do best.
UPDATE: Apparently Seth Rogen's producing a Figment movie now? Maybe this is Disney trying to justify fixing the ride or something, I dunno. Hopefully it doesn't suck!
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2022.07.06 21:44 Bubzoluck [20 min read] Drugs without a Home: How Rare Diseases get their Treatments - History and Outcomes of the Orphan Drug Act of 1983

[20 min read] Drugs without a Home: How Rare Diseases get their Treatments - History and Outcomes of the Orphan Drug Act of 1983
Hello and welcome back to SAR! Here is a question for you: how are people with rare diseases able to be treated if the market for those drugs is very small? Prior to 1983 many of those patients had no hope of being treated due to the large cost associated with developing a drug of which costs could not be recuperated. In 1983 the United States passed the Orphan Drug Act (2000 for the EU) that provides tax incentives and subsidies for drug manufacturers to produce drugs that a) help diseases with less than 200,000 current patients or b) drug developments where cost cannot be recovered. The intent is to provide medications for people who otherwise wouldn’t be focused on because there just aren’t enough of them for drug companies to invest the $868 million to $2.8 billion associated with bringing a drug to market. While not perfect, these drugs are life changing for many patients by giving them more years to live or even curing their disease. So without further ado, lets talk about Orphan Drugs!
Disclaimer: this post is not designed to be medical advice. It is merely a look at the chemistry of medications and their general effect on the body. Each person responds differently to antidepressant therapy. Please talk to your doctor about starting, stopping, or changing medical treatment

Diving into the Definition

A rare disease is defined as one that affects less than 200,000 people at a single point in time in the United States. Worldwide, about 7% of the population suffers from a rare disease of which 80% are due to genetic mutations or changes (the last 20% are due to infections, toxins, autoimmune responses, or side effects from other drugs). About 50% of the 30 million or so people with rare disease are children, many of which don’t make it to adulthood. Almost all countries with robust drug development industries have some iteration of the United States’ Orphan Drug Act which enables the government to incentivize development of orphan drugs.

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  • This graph is a really interesting representation of the impact of orphan drugs for people with rare diseases. On the left we have the prevalence, or rate, of people with the rare disease. As you can see, the majority of people with a rare disease are those with 10k to 100k people per disease (for instance, Cystic Fibrosis affects about 30,000 people in the United State). The pie chart in the middle shows the distribution of patients currently being treated with orphan drugs. Unsurprisingly the diseases with more people represent larger sections of the pie chart because there are physically more people. However, on the right, if we average the pie chart by the size of the disease (combining the left and middle) we see that the diseases with the least amount of people have the most people being treated. Essentially, the smaller the disease the more common it would be for those people to be using an orphan drug. Kinda cool statistics for ya!
    • Less than 15% of people with a rare disease are treated by an orphan drug, why? Well there are a couple main reasons: firstly, the majority of those people are unaware that they have a disease and are just undiagnosed. Second is the generalization of non-orphan drugs to treat these rare disease—we find out that a common drug is effective in treating these rare conditions. The last is that about ¼ of the orphan drugs target populations smaller than 5,000 people.

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  • When we look at the drug development process, there are generally 4 major steps with many different sub-steps that have to be completed in order for the FDA to authorize progression. From conception to marketing it takes about 10 years with the clinical trials taking at least 7 years of that time. This is why the average cost of a drug is so high, about $2.8 billion.
    • The first step is the chemistry or biochemistry that enables scientists to physically create the molecule. This includes identifying the target (receptor, protein, gene, molecule, etc.) and developing the processes to determine if the drug can actually get to the target. Then the drug has to be tested in non-humans like mice, rats, or dog models (in vivo) or in lab settings on specific tissues (in vitro). Once all that safety data is generated it can then be tested in humans.

Louise Medus-Mansell and Darren Mansell
  • Human testing is the most necessary step in determining if a drug can head to market. One drug named Thalidomide was marketed as an anti-nausea medication for pregnancy and was tested in rabbits, dogs, and monkeys. No significant problems were detected with Thalidomide and it was sent to market as a must have medication for severe nausea. Unfortunately Thalidomide was never tested in humans and caused severe fetal defects. Children affected by the medication were referred to as “flipper babies.” (Read our post about it here.)
    • Phase I clinical trials focus on testing the drug in healthy human volunteers. If we only tested it in patients already affected by the disease then we may never know if an adverse effect is caused by the disease interacting with the drug or the drug affecting the body independently. It’s also when pharmacokinetic data is generated—this data tells us exactly how long the drug stays in the body, how it's metabolized, and how it's eliminated.
    • By Phase II and III the drug is being studied in the intended patient population. This is when drug manufacturers test if their drug is effective and does what they say it does. This is also when a drug can fail and the billions of dollars spent to get to this point can be sent down the drain. Recently an HIV vaccine was scrapped in phase 2b/3 after proving to be ineffective in preventing new HIV infections—about $1.3 billion spent. Another example is Balovaptan which was being tested to treat autism based on the vasopressin 1a receptor. It was abandoned in phase 3 due to low efficacy.
    • If a drug can make it through clinical trials and show efficacy and safety the FDA will come in and review the process. If the FDA thinks the data is wonky they will make the drug manufacturer do another trial. If they get the coveted FDA approval then the drug can be sent to market and used in the general population. However a drug company still needs to monitor for side effects and must send that data to the FDA as part of their approval condition.

The Mad Royal Disease—Porphyria

One of the biggest historical conundrums is why rulers made the decisions they did, especially if they seemed crazy. I mean, why did Hannibal decide to cross the Alps with elephants? It worked out but come on, that’s insane! With other rulers we can point to physical or mental illness as a clear indicator of decisions especially as written records became clearer.
  • Some of you may remember King George III of England (1738-1820), the man who lost the American colonies sparking a new age of revolution across the globe. George was the grandson of George II and was born two months premature and was raised in isolation by his mother at Kew Palace. George’s early life was a struggle; he didn’t master reading fully until 11 years old but was determined to learn as much as he could. In 1760 George became king of Great Britain at the age of 12 and the people were excited for the first English born monarch (last was Queen Anne in 1714) in a generation who could restore English traditions.

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  • While hope was high George was dealt a shitty hand. While George would lose the colonies in the 1780s it was really his father’s fault for creating such a shitty situation for him to deal with. With the stress of running a country on the brink of financial ruin George’s behavior started to change. He would have periods of mania and would write letters with 400 words and only 8 verbs. He would complain incessantly of stomach pains and would be unable to sleep most nights due to the pain and convulsions that would rack his body. He was also known to hallucinate and one anecdote found him planting beef in the ground in order to grow a beef tree. These periods of madness could last up to a year and would come every few years necessitating recovery and treatment.
    • Obviously a mad king is not a good image for stability and so George was moved from Windsor Castle to his childhood home of Kew Palace during his relapses. No doctors could identify a physical illness and asked Dr. Francis Willis, the contemporary expert on mental illness, to treat the king. Willis believed the condition to be due to overexcitement and prescribed relaxation, calming activities, and complete control. If he was too manic he was placed in a straightjacket and ate soft baby foods so he wouldn’t have a fork or knife. He was also subjected to bloodletting and forced sleep and seclusion or treated with arsenic to blister the skin, castor oil to cause diarrhea, or heavy metals to induce vomiting.
    • The king had his first major attack in 1790 during the aftermath of the American Revolutionary War but recovered quickly. He would relapse in 1801 and 1804 causing a power struggle between Prime Minister William Pitt and George’s son, George IV. In 1810 George would have his last attack and would never fully recover from it. By this time his cataracts made him blind and he became permanently mad until his death in 1820.

Engraving of George III done in 1817 by Henry Mayer
  • With the clear pattern of mania, normalcy, and depression many believed George III to be a clear case of bipolar disorder. However symptoms that were originally thought to be side effects of 18th century treatments were determined to be actually due to George’s disease. The most prominent symptom was severe and persistent abdominal pain that radiated downwards into the legs instead of diffusely into the rest of the chest. Likewise he had red urine and his… ahem… feces took on a notable purple color. This led many historians to believe that George III had porphyria, not a psychiatric illness (although this is still a theory). One key piece of evidence is that George’s direct descendent Prince William of Gloucester (1941-1972), the grandson of King George V and cousin to Queen Elizabeth II, had porphyria—a clear hereditary link.

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  • Alright alright so what is this mysterious disease? Porphyria is an inherited rare metabolic disorder in which a person is unable to correctly synthesize heme. Heme is the main component of hemoglobin, the protein that found in red blood cells that allows it to carry oxygen. The heme molecule is made of a large ring called the Porphyrin Ring which has 4 nitrogen atoms used to capture the Iron atom (Fe) in the middle. Its that iron that holds onto the oxygen allowing us to transfer oxygen from the lungs to every cell in your body. Kinda crazy!

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  • In Porphyria the body’s ability to synthesize heme is impaired due to clogging of certain enzymes involved in the biosynthesis of the heme molecule. There are three kinds of porphyria: chronic porphyrias (most common) or acute intermittent porphyria (which George likely had). While those are genetic in nature, the last is acquired porphyria which is usually caused by metal toxicity (lead, iron) or secondary to some other disordeinfection.
  • Depending on the type of porphyria, it can manifest as mainly dermatological (chronic porphyria) or as GI symptoms (as in acute porphyria). Acute porphyria is known for psychiatric disturbances like hallucinations, red-purple urine, as well as nonspecific generalized pain. Both diseases have triggers that cause the symptoms to present or get worse such as iron overload, alcohol, sunlight exposure, fasting, and metabolic stress (like surgery, bloodletting!!!)
  • Prior to 1983 there was no effective treatment for porphyria either due to lack of understanding of the disease or just not having the resources. Since porphyria is a disease affecting hemoglobin production many thought that giving the component parts would cure the disease. However the issue isn’t in not having the nutrients it that the enzymes making the product do not work—giving extra iron or eating meat won’t make more heme. Giving heme intravenously wreaks havoc on the blood’s ability to carry oxygen precipitating medical emergencies. That’s where Panhematin came in.

Panhematin vs Givosiran
  • Panhematin was the first drug released under the Orphan Drug Act and met the market in 1983. By using a special administration technique and structure, Panhematin can be administered to the patient replenishing the pool of heme in the body. Thus toxic precursors waiting for heme to be available can be used up relieving the acute porphyria attacks. The annual cost for Panhematin is about $134,800 dollars. A newer agent was just assigned its orphan drug status in 2019, Givosiran (Givlaari). Givosiran takes advantage of double stranded mRNA segments which help reduce the toxic heme precursors allowing the body to produce more heme on its own. Compared to Panhematin, this drug costs about $616,900 a year but does have greater efficacy.

Gasping for the Ability to Live—Cystic Fibrosis


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While porphyria generally does not limit the life expectancy for the person, many rare diseases do have a limited prognosis. One such disease is Cystic Fibrosis, a genetic disorder in which the body produces too much mucus in the lungs mostly but also the pancreas, liver, kidneys, and intestines. Cystic Fibrosis is not an easy disease but patients have a better chance of having a long life compared to a century ago. People are born with the disease and in the 1940s the life expectancy for an infant was about 6 months. As new drugs and supplements were discovered the life expectancy for Cystic Fibrosis has risen steadily with modern estimates putting it at 44 years old or more (my nursing friend met an 80 year old CF patient). CF affects 1 in 3500 people in the US.

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  • Cystic Fibrosis is caused by a defect in the CFTR gene which damages the function of the chloride channel found in cell membranes. In normal cells, chloride, sodium, and water are able to move freely between the cell and the lung airway allowing mucus thickness to be regulated. If the body needs a thicker mucus, it can remove chlorine and sodium which draws water out the mucus, thickening it or reverse the process to thin the mucus as needed. In Cystic Fibrosis, the CFTR gene mutation prevents chlorine from being regulated which prevents thinning of the mucus. The result is a very thick coating on the surface of the airways which is a great place for bacteria to grow. This process also happens in other organs like the pancreas, kidneys, and intestines which clogs their function leading to decreased function or organ failure.
    • There are 6 classes of CFTR mutations that vary in the amount of impairment on the chloride channel. Class I is a defective synthesis of the channel entirely meaning that no chlorine moves at all. Class II, a point mutation called F508del, is the most common type of CF at >90% of patients. This class has dec activity in the gene meaning chloride channels can be made but not at a rate needed. Class III is due to defective chloride channel regulation in which the channel is made but it is locked shut. Class IV has dec function of chloride flow while Class V is a reduced synthesis of the chloride channel. Finally Class VI is a normal chloride channel but it is rapidly destroyed by other processes.
  • When treating Cystic Fibrosis the goals are to preserve lung function and thin the mucus allowing the person to breathe. Because of this we use lots of inhalers to help get the medication directly to the sight of action for the maximum efficacy. Bronchodilators like Albuterol are must haves because they dilate the airways and open up the lungs allowing for deeper penetration. From here there is a mixture of medications developed under the Orphan Drug Act to help accomplish the rest of the goals. In addition to drugs are non-pharmacological options like exercise and chest percussion devices to help cough up and remove the mucus.

Colistimethate structure vs Hypertonic Saline
  • First up are the mucolytic agents or the drugs that will help thin the mucus sitting in the lungs. Remember that thick mucus breeds bacteria so thinning that layer for it to be coughed up helps keep patients out of the hospital with nasty respiratory infections. One of the first treatments was inhaling 7% saline solution, a concentrated fluid that has double the amount of salt as sea water (salt water is 3.5% salt). By using a highly salty solution, we are able to draw water from the cells into the lung space helping to hydrate the mucus and thin it. It’s reasonably effective but it isn’t the one-two punch that really helps patients.
    • In 1993 a new drug entered the market that revolutionized thinning mucus: Dornase alfa (Pulmozyme). Pulmozyme works by spraying an enzyme deep into the lung tissue that breaks down strands of DNA sitting in the mucus which helps the thick fluid coagulate. By breaking down this hairs of DNA, the mucus has nothing to stick to and adhere so its easier to cough up. When it was first released, a single month’s treatment could be up to $6,000 a month but luckily there are coupons and copays available through the Orphan Drug Act that can drop that price down to a few hundred dollars a month.
  • So we have opened the lungs with Albuterol and thinned the mucus with mucolytics, now we have to make sure bacteria won’t cause an infection. For non-CF patients who have a respiratory infection we can use oral or IV medications to help kill the bacteria but that won’t work with Cystic Fibrosis. Instead of giving an oral agent which has to reach the lung slowly, we can give an inhaled antibiotic to get the drug directly into the lung tissue. One of the first Cystic Fibrosis specific antibiotics is Colistimethate (Colymycin) released in 1970. Although it is injection only, Colistimethate was a great first option because it has high lung penetration and is specific for the bacteria specifically found in the lung.

Tobramycin structure vs Aztreonam
  • Even better was two inhalers, Tobramycin (TOBI Podhaler) and Aztreonam (Cayston) released in 1997 and 2010 respectively. As inhalers, the antibiotics are able to get directly into the lung and kill bacteria directly. Both developed under the Orphan Drug Act, these drugs are must haves for Cystic Fibrosis and reduced the monthly hospitalization rate from 45% to about 20% and the monthly mortality rate from 17.4% to 3.8%. Unsurprisingly the inhalers are expensive: its about $10,000 for a months supply for the TOBI and Cayston inhalers. Luckily with insurance, manufacturer coupons, and assistance from the Orphan Drug Act, many patients pay less than $30,000 a year for treating Cystic Fibrosis with a lifetime health care cost of $300,000.
    • There is another part of Cystic Fibrosis treatment using precision medicine that targets the gene dysfunctions but i'm going to keep them a secret till we cover Cystic Fibrosis in full :P stay tuned!

Putting the ODA to the Test—HIV & AIDS

So far we have looked at diseases that are rare and current research has yet to produce a meaningful suppressive treatment or cure. With the emergence of HIV and AIDS in the 1980s the scramble to identify, treat, and potentially cure a disease plaguing the gay population was a big concern for researchers at the time. Since then our knowledge of the infection and disease has progressed enormously but not without mistakes, controversies, and wasted time and resources. Since the 80s we have developed drugs under the Orphan Drug Act that pushed AIDS from being an inevitable death, away from guaranteed transmission, and ultimately returning a patient to a normal life.

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  • The Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV) is an infection of a retrovirus part of the genus Lentivirus. There are actually two kinds of HIV viruses (1 and 2) but they both infect the immune system, specifically the T cells, macrophages, and dendritic cells. By infecting these immune cells, the virus is able to hijack the cell’s protein production to only produce viral components and assemble them making more viruses. Eventually the virus bursts the cell killing it and releasing exponentially more viruses to infect more immune cells. The result is the rapid deletion of the immune system causing the second stage of the disease: Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome or AIDS.

Graph showing the types of infections we expect based on CD4 count, the biological marker of AIDS progression. Before HIV medications were discovered, the life expectancy of AIDS was a few months to a few years.
  • When someone is diagnosed with AIDS their immune system is so depleted that there is nothing protecting them from even the most simple of infections. In fact, the main cause of death for AIDS patients are opportunistic infections—a group of bacterial and fungal infections that are normally easily mopped up by the immune system. These include Pneumocystis Pneumonia, Toxoplasmosis, Mycobacterium Complex, and many more. Without treatment the patient will die.

Zidovudine/Azidothymidine vs 1993 public conference flier to expose the marketing, advertising, and promotional strategy for the drug
  • If you hadn’t guessed, the AIDS epidemic starting in 1981 really pushed Congress to pass the Orphan Drug Act two years later to incentivize development of antiretroviral drugs. One of the first drugs to have efficacy against HIV is Zidovudine (a.k.a Azidothymidine) which was approved for use in AIDS patients in 1987 although it was initially discovered decades earlier. See, in the 1960s there was a theory that most cancers were a result of retroviruses and so research was put into developing new drugs that prevented infection from retroviruses. In 1964 Zidovudine was synthesized and was used successfully to prevent infection from several retroviruses such as the Friend leukemia virus. (Side note: if you want to learn more about viruses that cause cancer, search for oncogenic viruses!)
    • By 1983 the world was two years into an epidemic that the world was still blind too and panicking completely. By this time we knew that HIV spread through blood and swaths of national blood supplies were being destroyed in the name of protecting the greater good. Meanwhile, patients continued to die. Once a successful way of growing HIV-infected immune cells was discovered in 1983, researchers started testing every drug under the sun to find what would stick. Zidovudine would be found to be successful and was sped through the FDA approval process. It received orphan drug status for the treatment of AIDS in 1985 and eventually approved in 1987; a mere 25 months from trial to approval which is one of the shortest in history. In fact, the FDA skipped many necessary review stages for safety and efficacy in order to get the drug distributed early. While that may seem reckless, look at the choice: either you distribute a drug that potentially harms the patient or wait, do the testing, while that same patient dies of a 100% mortality rate disease. What would you do?

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  • Since Zidovudine in 1987, there have been several different anti-HIV medications discovered and marketed. Almost all of them have gone through the Orphan Drug Act to allow patients more options to treat their infection and to be in remission or have a viral count of undetectable. Today we have several drug classes to make dozens of combinations with all of which can turn a deadly disease into a more manageable condition with the right access and help. Take a look at the chart below at the kinds of combinations, some of them are up to 4 drugs in one pill such as Genvoya or Symtuza. Likewise, look at the mortality rate due to AIDS and correspond that to the year that drugs entered the market. You’ll notice that in 1995/6, the second drug class to treat HIV was approved which drastically improved outcomes.

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Some Final Words

Some argue the Orphan Drug Act changed the face of pharmaceuticals in the United States because it allowed market forces to be lessened allowing orphan diseases the chance to be researched. From the 1960s to the 1980s, there were only 10 drugs on the market that were approved to treat orphan diseases. By 2004, that number grew to just over 1,100 orphan drugs designated by the Office of Orphan Products Development (OOPD) and 250 of those drugs are actively on the market. By 2010 the number of drugs doubled to 2,100 and of the 7.000 diseases designated as orphan disease, 200 have become treatable. In fact Pfizer has now established an entire division just on orphan drug research.
With any legislation, there are good and bad sides, and the bad is worth talking about. Some say that since the US government is willing to pick up the majority of the tab for these very expensive drugs, it has allowed drug companies to charge huge prices. Likewise, the money that some companies saved under the ODA allowed them to make enormous profits when those drugs became non-orphan blockbuster drugs. This was seen with Modafinil (Provigil), a drug originally developed to treat narcolepsy (excessive sleepiness) and approved in 1988 before becoming the 336th most prescribed medication—lots of money made without much being returned due to development costs being decreased from the ODA. One of the other criticisms is the repurposing of known, common medications for orphan drug status with dubious efficacy.
So what does this mean? Is the ODA successful or just a method for drug companies to make money? It depends on who you ask. For the parent of the child born with Cystic Fibrosis and learns that they will almost certainly outlive their child, is adding a decade of life worth letting drug companies make a few billion more? Or is providing funding to conglomerate drug companies to produce medications for little known diseases the price we pay for finding the next cure, like what happened with AIDS? I don’t know, I just blog on reddit. Just some food for thought. Cheers!
The Dallas Times Herald, Tuesday, September 11, 1990. From Linda Jebavy Mitchell Collection
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2022.06.18 09:23 alittlemoreofbrowny 400 : A 26-year journey from 398/5 to 498/4.

400 : A 26-year journey from 398/5 to 498/4.
  • The Build-up
On 6th Mar 1996, Sri Lanka scored 398/5 against Kenya in World Cup 1996. This was the day that not only left the people curious but also sparked a debate on How long before we saw a score of 400 in an ODI.
on 24th Aug 2005(exactly one year before Pluto was no longer a planet lol), New Zealand took it to the next level,scoring 397/5 off just 44 overs against Zimbabwe. The run rate was an insane 9.02 but the score still remained below 400, denied because the match was shortened due to a damp patch on the Bulawayo pitch.

  • The Beginning
The wait for the 400 in an ODI ended on 12th March 2006, South Africa missed Shaun Pollock, Australia missed Glenn McGrath and a flat pitch meant combined with strong batting line-ups meant it was a perfect recipe to fulfill the dream that was shown by the Lankan Lions in 1996 and 10 years & 6 days later, there it was.


Australia Breach the 400 barrier
Thanks to Ricky Ponting's 164 off 105 and quickfire 50s from Mike Hussey and Adam Gilchrist, the festival of Holi turned into the festival of runs as ball flew, 43 times in the innings to be precise. Time literally stood still as cricket fans from all world rejoiced this action packed ODI innings while also sympathizing with South African bowler but little did they know what was gonna hit them in the next few hours.

Spoke too soon
As Always the first ones are the toughest, took 35 years in this case but second ones? huh that took only like 4 odd hours. This time it was Herschelle Gibbs with 175 off 111 , Boucher and Smith with their quickfire 50s but the one that stood out and possibly forgotten by the fan was the fans was the cameo,35 off 18 by Johan Van der Wath enabling the highest run chase and then the highest total (in Senior men's ODIs only tho) of 438.
it was the day that left us entertained and shell shocked also my dad said it kinda ruined ODI cricket for him.

  • The Dark era/Era of Dullness (2006-2009)
Coming off two back-to-back 400 scores, there were a lot of expectations around high scoring but instead we delved into an era of darkness for the next 3.5 years as teams scored 400+ scores against teams like Netherlands,Zimbabwe,Bermuda and Ireland. The only memorable thing about this era was this catch:

What a grab, Dwayne Leverock
Sanath Jayasuriya scored a 157 off 104 along Dilshan scoring 117 off 78 to get to then highest ODI total of 443/9 on 4th July 2006 although that dulled down by the fact that it was against an associate side with 2 1960s-born bowlers in it.
On 18th Sept 2006,Mark Boucher scored 147 off 68 balls against Zimbabwe to felicitate the next 400+ score of 418 ruined by the fact that it was a heavily weakened Zimbabwe side that dropped Boucher 6 times during his innings.
On 19th Mar 2007, An angry Indian team smashed Bermuda team for 418, the game was not worth mentioning as it was just a minnow bashing, Virender Sehwag scoring 114 off 87 and India winning the game by a record margin of 256 runs.
Fun fact : 4 days later, India were eliminated from the World cup.
on 1st July 2008, another case of minnow bashing took place as New Zealand few days after the controversial run-out of Grant Elliot ,scored 402/2 against Ireland, Brendon McCullum scoring 166 off 135. Only thing of note, The biggest winning margin with 290 runs now belonged to New Zealand.
This era was completely dull to say the least with only thing of note being the winning margins and a few decently enjoyable 100s here and there.

  • India- Sri Lanka thriller aka The False Hope
After all the dull affairs from the last 3.5 years, came upon one of the best cricket matches ever played. 14th Nov 2009 ,Rajkot, India batted first on an infamously flat Rajkot pitch and on back of Sehwag's 146 off 102 balls and 50s from MS Dhoni and Sachin Tendulkar, scored their second 400+ score in ODIs. This time against a decent bowling attack.

Sehwag raises his bat after reaching his 100 en route to 146 off 102
Lankan Lions as they always did, replied in likeness. Their innings had a lot of resemblance to the South African innings from the 434 game. Dilshan Mirrored Gibbs scoring 160 off 124, Sangakkara mirrored Graeme Smith and Tharanga mirrored Mark Boucher as Sri Lanka were 316/1 after 36.2 overs needing only 98 runs 82 balls.

Dilshan hits one on the of-side en route to his 160 off 124 balls

but all they missed was a Johan Van der Wath cameo as the wickets fell at one end, a 22 year old Angelo Mathews held the fort but could not get his team over the line as India won a thriller by just 3 runs in the end.
Fun fact: Virat Kohli batted at #7 in this game below Harbhajan Singh.

  • The Era of Overshadowing(2010-2015)
The thriller between India and Sri Lanka led into the era of overshadowing where the score of 400 was breached 7 times but scores were often overshadowed by batters achieving insane individual records or the fact that 400 was being breached way too many times.
The Era kicked off in historical fashion though as 24th Feb 2010 saw the Master Blaster Sachin Tendulkar completed another dream of cricket fan all over the world, A double century in an ODI game. A small ground and an in-form Tendulkar punished the South African bowlers as he formed partnerships with Dinesh Karthik, Yusuf Pathan and MS Dhoni.
South African folded for 248, beginning a unique trend of India winning by exactly 153 runs when someone scored an ODI 200 except against Australia where the win margin was just 57 runs

A moment that outshone the score of 401/3 in a freaking ODI!!
The Era kept up it's tone as Sehwag scored a record breaking 219 along with 50s from Gambhir and Raina as the game at Indore on 8th Dec 2011 turned out to be a dull one overall , their joint highest ODI total overshadowed by Sehwag's record breaking 219 off 149 balls. No guesses on the winning margin lol.

Overshadow Era in full force as Sehwag scored then highest ODI individual score of 219(149) outshining India's 418/5
Another one of these instances came on 13th Nov 2014 as number records broken led the score of 404/5 being pushed so far in the background that no one even cared as Rohit Sharma went berserk, shattering several records in his innings of 264, the chase itself being nothing of note as India won by surprised pikachu face 153 runs.

404 was the least relevant number that day
After India ODI double Centurions, it was Ab De Villers' turn to overshadow a 400+ total, Wanderers stadium,Johannesburg,coming in 39 over mark, De Villiers smashed a barrage of records including fastest 50 and 100 in the ODIs, from 240 in 39 overs South Africa went on to score 439/2 after 50 overs as no one cared about the score, All eye were on Abraham Benjamin de Villiers who scored a mind boggling 149 off just 44 balls. Windies chase never got going as they lost by 148 runs.
An innings of a lifetime outshining a score of 439/2
The 2015 World Cup saw the last 3 instances of the Overshadowing era as Abd Storm hit the Windies again at Sydney on 27th Feb 2015 this time. As Abd took off again blasting another record shattering innings 162 off 66 as the team score didn't matter even little, blasting 80 off last 20 balls and taking Jason Holder for 100 off his last 5 overs.

Who else can outshine a score of 400+ twice, this guy.

just FYI, South Africa scored 408/5 and won the game by 256 runs
4th Mar 2015, against Ireland, South Africa breached the 400 mark again on the back of 100s from Hashim Amla and Faf du Plessis although against a further weaker side as winning margin stayed a rather decent 200 runs.
Amla-Du Plessis shared a 247 run stand
The final 400+ score of this era was scored by Australia as their score of 417 was this time outshone by the fact that David Warner scored 178 off 135 being dismissed in just the 35th over leading people to wonder if he could've breached the 300 run mark.
What could have been had Warner not been dismissed that day?oh BTW, Australia won by 275 runs, 2nd biggest margin ever and the biggest in World cup history.

  • The Polarizing Era/ The Era of English Batting renaissance
Now this era had rather great contributions from various batters and had several previous records being run over with England being the flag bearer with 5 out of the 6 400+ scores in this era, South Africa scoring the remaining one but the chases still remained stale leading to the second half of the matches being rather dull despite the entertaining first half.
This era kicked off in style as England on the back of their white ball reset posted a total of 408/5 at Edgebaston ,Birmigham on 9th June 2015 after being 6 for 202 at one point, flaunting their new found batting depth and fury as Buttler and Root scored 100s while Rashid and Morgan chipped in with 50s.

The innings that kicked off the new era of English ODI cricket

The chase tho,still dull as Kiwis folded for 198,England winning by 210 runs in a rather comfortable game.

The 2nd 400+ score of this era was a unique one in multiple sense, it was only the second time that the team(out of the top 5 ranked teams) conceded a 400+ score at home and 2nd instances of 3 100s in an ODI innings ,both times by South Africa in 2015 itself.
As on 25th Oct 2015, Mumbai rose to their feet for Quinton de Kock(109), Faf Du Plessis(133) and Abd(119) as they took India for 438/4 in the series decider.,shattering several records on Indian soil.

2/3rd of the trio that murdered the Indian bowling
The chase finally had some fight as Rahane and Dhawan scored 50s but it fizzled out at 224 ,giving South Africa the series and a 214 run win over India.
Here's started a reign of terror, The terror of English batters swept across as they hit the 400 mark 4 times in next 7 years, rather easily every time not to mention.

The Reign of Terror spared nobody
England breached not only the 400 mark but also crossed 440 mark thrice, pushing scores into the realm of bowling nightmares.
It was Pakistan who took the first hit of the reign,at Nottingham on 30th Aug 2016, getting smashed for 444/4 ,one more than what Sri Lanka scored against Netherlands 10 years ago on the back of 171 from Hales and 50s from Root,Morgan and Buttler.

Hales scored 171 to take England to 281/2 in just 36 overs
The chase was fast but it's only achievement was the first ODI 50 by a #11 Amir, a 57 off 28, England winning by 169 runs.
In midst of the reign of terror, let's take a detour to a thriller between England and Windies, date 27th Feb 2019 ,place St. George.
England on the back of 50s from Alex Hales and Johnny Bairstow & 100s from Eoin Morgan and Jos Buttler scored 418/6, the highest score in the Caribbeans leaving Windies a very tough task at hand.
Buttler took off at the death, his 150 off 77 paving the way for 418/6
The chase took off as Gayle blasted 162 off 97 balls and with support for Darren Bravo and Carlos Brathwaite, The Windies stood on the brink of a historic win as they needed 30 off last 3 with 4 wickets in hand but Adil Rashid took 4 wickets off 5 balls sealing the game for England in dramatic fashion.

  • 17th June 2022 & 18th June 2018 : Two days of Gruesome murder
Hit by the sandpaper gate, a weakened Aussie team landed on the English soil, conceding the 5 match ODi series within the first 3 matches itself, being 0-3 down, they came to Nottingham looking for some respite but what was about to hit them was nothing short of Monumental.
Johnny Bairstow and Alex Hales scored 100s while Jason Roy and Eoin Morgan scored 50s as England piled up 481/6 in 50 overs, only stopped from breaching the 500 mark by quiet 4 overs at the death.
Aussie Bowlers went the distance as the English batters hit 41 fours and 21 sixes, 290 runs coming in just boundaries as time stood as still as it did on 12th March 2006 as the whole world wondered again whether a 500+ score was possible in an ODI or not.
The Scoreboard told the tale of Aussie pain and English dominance
Aussie batting could only score 239, losing by 242 runs, their biggest defeat margin ever in the ODIs and went 0-4 down in the series but curious minds had already wondering on when will the 500 mark be breached.
17th June 2022, Amstelveen ,Netherlands. Dutch Captain Peter Seelaar won the toss and chose to bowl first,a decision that he will probably regret till the end of his life.
On a rather warm Dutch afternoon as fans lined up for beers, English Batters showed no mercy as Jason Roy scored a sublime 1(7), lol jk. Phil Salt started the carnage with a blazing 122 off 93, getting out in the 30th over when the score read 223/2 probably missing out on an ODI 200.
in walked Jos Buttler and next 122 balls saw 9 cricket balls being lost and 275 runs being scored as Jos Buttler smashed a 70 ball 162 and Liam Livingstone scored a 22 ball 66, Dawid Malan's 125 off 109 being called slow while Captain Eoin Morgan scoring a first ball duck as Engalnd scored 498/4 in 50 overs,narrowly missing out

Madness, utter madness.
Bas de Leede went for 65 in his 5 overs while Boissevain went for 108 in his 10.
Netherlands scored 266 in their innings but result was a forgone conclusion 30 overs in the game tbh.

Liam Livingstone scored a 17 ball 50
How far is the 500 mark in the ODI cricket, will England do it? when & where, that's still unknown but all we know is that it will surely be done. The Journey from 6 Mar 1996 to 17th June 2022 brought us from 398 to 498, lets see where the future takes us.
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2022.04.30 15:39 KonekoBot Sat Apr 30 23:39:12 2022

NASDAQ:AMD / 114
Yea I've been running MSFT, NVDA, TSLA, AMD, SQQQ & TQQQ for a while, has served me very well ☺️
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Sat Apr 30 06:03:58 2022 SUBREDDIT : Daytrading
ETF SPY, TSLA, NVDA, AMD, FB
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Sat Apr 30 08:02:08 2022 SUBREDDIT : Daytrading
This is how I trade. I do it with FB, AAPL and AMD. I'll buy 500 to 4000 shares of AMD and start sell right away. Even 4000 shares is nothing to AMD on the 1 minute chart.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 06:29:48 2022 SUBREDDIT : Daytrading
I risk 1 million per day, not including margin. I'll buy up to 1 million worth of AMD or Apple at a time and start selling it immediately. I don't care about percentage gains per day. I care about making good moves and getting out quickly. This morning I made $1200 in AAPL at the open in 3 minutes. I could have held for a lot more but why risk it. Then later shorted AMD late afternoon for a longer move. $2. Another $1k+ move. Then bought apple 4 mins before close and sold in .20 for another $1k. Short moves will make you $$$. Don't believe all the YouTube garbage. Get in, get out,get happy. Ha
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 06:37:33 2022 SUBREDDIT : Daytrading
Set an alert to ding. Or if it's close, I just buy in. Don't give a shit about waiting an hour so it can drop 10 more cents. If it's close, I buy in. Set my risk and walk away. But to be clear, I'm oftentimes look for a .30 to .50 move. Unless it's outer edges. Like today, I shorted 500 shares AMD at like 3:40PM. I knew it'd drop but didn't care abya perfect entry. Came back in after hours and closed my position for like $1200. If I would have started non stop maybe I would have made $200 more. Not worth it.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 06:27:24 2022 SUBREDDIT : Daytrading
AMD has very solid ORBs, what is your entry criteria?
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 00:10:36 2022 SUBREDDIT : Daytrading
Just a week ago the most bought stocks by retail traders were TSLA, AMD, NVDA, TQQQ, and other speculative stuff. Still so much complacency.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Sat Apr 30 08:17:39 2022 SUBREDDIT : StockMarket
Buying AMD and NVIDIA with every free dollar right now.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 23:59:58 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
I’m considering all in AMD rn
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Sat Apr 30 01:26:16 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
I love me some AMD and Nvidia, but I’ve been buying SOXX lately for some extra exposure to other chip makers
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Sat Apr 30 12:39:02 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Yeah I dumped all my higher risk/speculative stocks around the invasion and moved it in AMD and NVDA. Mostly AMD though.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Sat Apr 30 02:16:22 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
I feel pretty safe DCAing into companies like AMD. I add some every week and don’t plan to stop anytime soon.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Sat Apr 30 00:08:11 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Cisco never innovated a new genre of tech. They only do the best networking equipment. Similar, I have Oracle, bought at $42 during the dotcom bust, only popped past year after 20yrs of nothing (Oracle only does DBs). In contrast AMD and Nvidia created a new genre of tech: game consoles, laptops. I had bought AMD at $8 back in 2004. Amazon, Google, Apple as well created new genres of tech in their own right. Going forward you basically want the companies that will create new or reinvent their genres. That's being a growth investor. Cisco has not, but it does supply critical tech, upgrades to the genre creators (e.g 5G) much like the telcos, that's being a value investor.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Sat Apr 30 01:18:00 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
I’ve loaded up and absolutely uncomfortable amount of AMD.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 18:10:28 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
There was a time when AMD was a meme stock.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 21:59:14 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
I felt like getting downvoted today: I'd rather hold Gamestop than AMD, change my mind
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 21:15:27 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Had similar thoughts. Taking advantage of the IV and sold some calls at the $105 strike so if they become itm and exercised no biggie. Free money if they don’t. Will always maintain a hold forever AMD position though.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 20:32:33 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
This sub only learns through hindsight, everything else is a value play bro. Nio, Paypal, and AMD next
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 21:37:45 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Random thoughts. Add to your own due diligence as you see fit: (I’ll try to keep this in the order of yours.) AMD earnings will be interesting for sure. The good Doctor seems to inspire staff and investors. But they’re always a more volatile ride. Qualcomm earnings were a solid A in a crappy early part of the year. Intel earnings, the fabs made up for a lot of pain. Think the number I remember is they were up 178% on revenues(!) — may have missed that boat and their expenses were skyrocketing. If you took away the fan growth they weren’t growing strong. Government wants semis that build US fabs to do well. Not many are sinking significant money into that without assurance they virtually never pay taxes on it, they can’t afford the labor here. Flat out it’s more a PR move than a real money move. They all have massive headwinds in the short term, people put off buying gadgets and companies run systems way past when they should be still in service when budgets get tight. People put off buying phones until they finally shatter the silly glass things. Etc. As a purely bullish play on fab building if these companies are truly serious about that, I like ASML. Everybody uses their stuff. Problem is, I see they authorized a share buyback today and that’s a sign of them wanting to pump the stock price artificially like numerous other techs have done recently. And the stock is stuck and unmoving. Foreign company. All that jazz. I want a sign of life out of fab building before playing that one. That may be two years from now If construction projects remain difficult and hampered by supply and labor issues. In other words, I don’t see anybody fully harshly committed to US fab building. Or even that hard core committed to fab building at all really. They’re all waiting around on China to get it together. I always like tech. It’s what I do. But I can’t see dumping capital into any of them until the macro down trend plays out a bit more. All current numbers are rearward looking into an economy that believed it was headed for all time highs again on the cusp of “reopening” and was downplaying inflation. We know at least that part was flat wrong now. I’ll wait at least another quarter for another earnings number set, after the Fed whacks the market again. None are bad companies. Oh did you mention Nvidia? They’re good too but they’re getting stuff headwinds ahead FROM Intel and AMD both. All see the need for “video” processing (really it’s encryption and all the things graphics processors are good at, that general CPUs aren’t — and that stuff is high profit margin high demand stuff) and are going after that specialty hard. Nvidia is best of breed but Intel and to a lesser extent AMD will “give it away” to grab as much market as they can and not give it to Nvidia. And of course, Apple is off doing their own chip thing… with TSMC and the like. Super wide angle picture — all are chasing smaller available dollars in a hotly contested sector. Whether there’s enough dollars to go around is the real question. They’re getting rotated out as a sector because of the usual move in down economies to defensives. Your mileage may vary. Consumer staples outpaced tech even after decent earnings in most of them. Market psychology says folks are spooked about tech right now. Especially as high growth names. I think there’s better sectors to be in at least in the short term. Once you see 12 year olds clamoring for the latest iThingy and getting it for a $1000 gift, tech has roared back. But it’s not right now. Trading. Sure. They’ll pop to something if the market waffles along. It won’t be all time highs. Investing, I’m patient. There’s still some pain coming for them I think. Consumer isn’t getting stronger right now.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Sat Apr 30 05:24:40 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Sold a put at end of day today on AMD and on QCOM. AMD 75 strike, QCOM 120 strike. Both exp May 20. Think they’ve both pulled back enough that those would be good entries if assigned.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Sat Apr 30 06:06:14 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Which is better stock to buy NVDA or AMD?
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Sat Apr 30 12:32:55 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
SOXL is 3x leverage. The swings are big' so you swing trade it if you know when to enteexit. But you don't stay in it too long. Maybe a few weeks if the direction stays solid. I entered in the last week' average cost is 24$' I have more money ready to deploy come monday if the ON earnings dont make it rocket before AMD on Tuesday. I'm expecting another final leg down maybe into the 20-21$ range with the FOMC meeting coming up' then hopefully a big green rip upwards all the way until NVDA earning later in the month. That'll be my exit until I see more downward pressure again with more rate hikes and QT.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Sat Apr 30 07:42:36 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Gotta put my money (literally) on this AMD dip. Beat way down, billions in share buy back planned and I believe what will be an epic EC next Tuesday.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 23:52:23 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
AMD
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 23:40:40 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
I say AMD, PYPL, SQ and maybe SOFI
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Sat Apr 30 04:02:17 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
I think in the short term, nothing got beaten down too much. There is a good chance they will continue to go lower. But in the long term, I think most of them got beaten down too much, too many to list them all. Some honorable mentions are AMD, MSFT, AAPL, GOOG. "Dishonorable" mention to FB lol
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Sat Apr 30 05:02:05 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Paypal, Roblox, Sofi, Nvidia, AMD, Draftkings. Himax not beaten down too much but undervalued.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Sat Apr 30 12:17:19 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Yess AMD over intel/nvda by a long shot
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Sat Apr 30 04:45:36 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
NVDA or AMD, those are the best plays right now IMO.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 23:54:43 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Just curious, why do you think AMD over NVDA? I’m heavily invested in AMD myself, but like hearing others take on it.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Sat Apr 30 10:40:22 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
I'm curious also, I'm looking to buy AMD or NVDA
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Sat Apr 30 11:42:04 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
This type of question get posted weekly. Here is my philosophy that has served me well - retire early and living the good life. First and foremost, fully fund retirement accounts with low cost mutual funds or ETFs (no speculative investment). Then and only then, start by investing select blue chips with growth potential then develop a speculative portfolio. One of the most important things in investing (not gambling) is to have both a downside and upside strategy and do a lot of DD. For my downside strategy, it is simple - if I loses ~20%, I am typically out and ask what myself did I miss or were there any over-riding events (war, terrorism, total market downturn..). I will continue to watch but rarely do I average down as I view this as throwing good money after bad. You need to remember if you lose 50%, the stock needs to double just to get to even! For the upside (makes sure you have a price target based on your DD and are actively monitoring the company), I typically sell 1/3 or 1/4 if it grows 25-50% (no harm in taking profits). If it doubles, I sell half and let the remainder ride as I view these as "free" shares from my original investment dollars. They become part of "hold and forget" portfolio that I only tap if I need the money for a big purchase (car, home remodel, vacation...). Today, my "hold and forget" include HON, LLY ($60), FB ($19), AMD ($2), CC ($6), BABA ($60), GE ($6) - I learned one thing - slow and steady wins the race. Good Luck
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Sat Apr 30 12:48:43 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Ehhh I bought a ton of AMD at $10 because I read 40 posts a day on reddit debating whether it would ever break $14. Blind squirrels and that.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Thu Apr 28 20:40:55 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Bought AMD today, EC next week should be great
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Sat Apr 30 04:42:45 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
AMD, MSFT, NVDA.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Sat Apr 30 06:30:45 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Grabbed AMD and SE.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Sat Apr 30 00:39:25 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
AMD and NVDA
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Sat Apr 30 04:35:02 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
I bought some DPZ today. In the past month I’ve purchased AMD, INTC, PYPL, DIS, NFLX, and FB. In some instances it feels like catching a falling knife but it’s a long term time horizon.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Sat Apr 30 12:09:31 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
To find the next FAANG stocks, we need to find out what made them great in the first place. They were in a rising industry, had (or still have) huge moats, pricing power and great return on capital. Most of them (except Netflix/Amazon) had reasonable multiples and they were not that big yet (most were around 400b or less market cap). ​ >My picks? : AMD ADBE ROKU PLTR SQ Let's look at them. >AMD Company has huge competition in x86 processors from intel and is basically a non-player in other architectures. The last decade Intel was asleep and has paid the price, but since semi-conductors are cyclical, it is unlikely to see the returns from 2015 onward for AMD. ​ >ADBE They do fit the "moat" section of the FAANG stocks, but they mostly appear to professional or a niche. With their price hikes it is clear that they focus on enterprise the most. Could have decent returns, but I don't see them returns 20%+ a year. Also not cheap ​ >ROKU This is a Tivo in diguise. Most people want to watch Netflix and Youtube on their smart TV. Does not matter if the OS is from Samsung or Roku.They have 0 moat and are not a potential fang. ​ >PLTR They do have a moat, but they lose money head of heels and they have big shareholder dilution. Not a next Faang. ​ >SQ They are a payment provider and there are many of them now. No real moat. ​ So lets find companies: * 10-200b in market cap * Profitable with huge ROIC (at least 25%) * A "moat" * Not too expensive (less than 30 P/FCF at least) * In an industry with a big runway With Finviz I find these very interesting. Not saying they will have great returns, but for me they look more promising than your picks * Caterpillar * Celanese Corporation * CF Industrie Holdings * Dow Inc * FCX * NVR
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 14:59:47 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Yep, it's just that easy. The mega caps have all in common that everyone and their mothers use their products as end user. Netflix aside, your grandmother is on Facebook, orders stuff from Amazon on a Windows PC or probably even an iPhone while being bombarded with Google Ads. Just how much market insight do you need to tell the difference between FAANG and anything you might deem postable in this thread? No, Granny and her reading club won't discuss AMD vs NVDA, they won't recommend the shit from Palantir to their neighbors, and honestly to this day I (European) have no idea what ROKU even is.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 19:18:14 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
AMD has no foundry. Awesome company overall but can it be a FAANG if they are so heavily depending on some other random external company to build their hardware? All good until market conditions deteriorate due to political or whatever reason and it all goes tits up.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 18:04:30 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
AMD no moat... I guess that's why there are so many high end CPU producers out there
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 15:44:38 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Bearish on AMD because it has no moat? This sub really has gone downhill in the last few years…
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 15:11:43 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
AMD is regularly beating earnings by an impressive amount
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 13:10:30 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Why is this upvoted? ALL companies are dependent on offshore manufacturers to build their products. As for companies that produce chips, all of the top ones are fabless including AMD, Apple, Nvidia, etc. Globalization + increasing difficulty/costs of innovation in semiconductor foundries makes it necessary to have only a few that can do it while taking orders from multiple companies instead of everyone trying to do it themselves.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 20:03:46 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Doesn’t make them the next FAANG. Until everyone has an AMD product like how everyone has an iPhone, has a Facebook account or how everyone uses Amazon as an e-commerce platform first, it’s just another chip maker.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 13:14:36 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Goddamn AMD fans are clueless aren’t they? AMD’s marketing team did well to plaster “7N” on all their products.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 20:07:46 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Fair point. I said they're an awesome company and I agree they have the vision and know how to execute, proven already. Let me explain more. My perspective was one related to risk management. They are doing only chips. Any risk with external manufacturing actually materializing and they are taking a direct hit on their core business and growth. Not likely at all today, but we are looking at FAANG companies and we are taking into account in the valuation their growth over 10-20 years. So, if you look at the same small risks over a a 10-20 years period than maybe it looks a bit different. Now, if they would be also manufacturing, they would have something more closely to a "moat". Apple on the other are doing so much more than designing chips. Apple is a whole ecosystem and part of their integration they also rely on outsourcing those chips to externals as AMD. They have more cashflow and more leverage and would be able to manage the same risks or issues way faster and better than AMD. Even now, due to their power, planning at TSMC takes place around what APPLE wants and everybody else are fighting for the scrambles. Same risks, they are just a lot more resilient due to revenue diversification and power. Bottom line: could be, but very unlikely. What would stop any company, existing one ( Intel, ARM, Qualcomm, Nvidia, even APPLE) to design better chips, enter their market share, and just buy the same manufacturing capacity as AMD and beat them? I mean we have seen this happening with AMD beating Intel, and history repeats itself if you give it enough time.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Sat Apr 30 05:29:53 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Fair enough. I mean almost by definition next FAANG would have to be some kind of novel tech product and almost certainly be a “new” company. AMD is older than most people here’s grandparents
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 17:43:04 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
I agree Nvidia has the moatier moat though AMD has started to branch out beyond CPU/GPU manufacturing
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 20:16:14 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Thanks, fair enough. Neither do I expect AMD to become something like FAANG. My point was not having fab cannot be the reason.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Sat Apr 30 05:40:29 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Yeah pretty much. A lot of people are betting on the Metaverse being the next novel thing that everyone uses, but I don’t buy it yet. If AMD somehow comes up with a novel product that really becomes part of everybody’s daily life, then yeah, they can be the next FAANG. Apple after all, existed for a good amount of time before the iPhone and iPod changed everything.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Sat Apr 30 00:39:13 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Both of them are fabless semis so the clean room comment doesn’t apply. And sure, all companies designing chips or producing non-commodity products need specialized talent to design products. So that’s a fairly low bar to cross. Your x86 comment is the only one that has some merit but increasingly less so when more and more servers will be moving to ARM and even personal computers as Apple has successfully shown. Real moat is measured by the stickiness of a company’s platform. There’s no reason for a person to stick with an AMD x86 processor over an Intel one other than whoever manages to produce more chips at better performance for a cheaper price in a given year. Compare that with an Nvidia GPU for DL training that comes with a ton of software, SDKs, and various ways to scale their workload to their datacentenetworking products. Who else are you going to go to for that? Same with their automatic platform or RTX for gaming.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 20:26:55 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Why NVDA over AMD?
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 13:56:29 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
They don't own their fabs but they certainly pay for those fabs' capacity, and AMD I think gets priority since Global Foundries spun off from AMD. Nvidia definitely has more "moat", but on the whole both have their niches that they dominate. I won't bother going into detail regarding those, but they have em, and there's room enough for both NVDA and AMD in this world.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 20:29:40 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
So basically you’re posting this to look for affirmation buying into AMD. Well if you like AMD, go for it.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 14:23:46 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
All major fab customers “pay for capacity.” And I’m not disagreeing that they both have their place. AMD’s not going anywhere. But the main point of discussion was about FAANG companies and I don’t see AMD reaching that status any time soon.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 20:32:29 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
But like if I'm a lil startup I can't afford to outbid AMD for capacity. I don't know what "FAANG status" means, but if it means AMD goes to $1000/share by 2025, I agree it's not a FAANG.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 20:35:37 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Hide yo AMD, hide yo AAPL, AMZN gonna take it all away
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Thu Apr 28 20:28:46 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
AMD about to pop with earnings around the corner.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 00:37:14 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
This is not a joke, I see Redditors touting Intel is 'value'. People don't know Intel is stuck at $75B revenue from last 3 years. They have been guiding their quarters down from last 3 quarters. Yes you can go and pull previous ERs to verify. Whereas companies like AMD and NVDA have been guding higher and higher. There is always a new excuse with Intel. Its 'value' is diminishing and with a 5 yr turnaround time I dont think it will hold much 'value' if they keep on guiding down. Them meeting WS expectations is BS, They had already low guidance for this quarter and barely met the targets plus have again guided low. This is what CISCO does and see how similar its stock price is. Attaching oneself emotionally rather than data is not something right in this stock market.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 00:00:02 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
When I read this I always remember "narrative is chasing price, not the other way around" and the same things were said about AMD and Microsoft and etc back in the day. And then the complete opposite narrative was popular as the share price went up. Anyway, Intel is cheap compared to many other chips companies. It's cheap for a reason, of course, and as you mentioned Cisco is cheap too and Cisco is trash so how is Intel different? Cisco's Chuck Robbins is a known value destroyer and he's been at Cisco for ages, and he's not going away and he's not doing anything different. At Intel we had Swan and he was an accountant who became CEO so he cut staff, cut R&D and redirected all money to share repurchases. Intel was dying. Fortunately, we now have Pat and hes cutting share buybacks, got really good people to join him, spending on R&D and capacity increase and you know he's a geek, he loves Intel, he worked for Intel before he left for VMWare and now he's super happy to be back, he has this nationalistic streak of lets build chips at home and he has massive support from US and EU. These things take time but he's not a bullshitter and he is actually trying to turn the ship around. Sure, it's not a guaranteed success but at current price, with current fundamentals I think it's one of the best opportunities out there. I'm happy to hold and top up every quarter as I get paid dividend.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 09:28:29 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
I see this report from Intel and what it's telling me is to buy AMD tomorrow before they post a beat and higher guidance from eating Intel's core business.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 08:33:00 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
AMD is making significant gains there. Intel misses every quarter on the data center chips. EPYC chips are better
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Thu Apr 28 23:25:47 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
I can open yahoo finance balance sheet and kinda see you're making things up :p. Also ridiculous expecting NVidia or AMD could grow past the market. Intel reached the ceiling. Better server sales, GPUs are all that remains. Or new markets. Pat has vision which he aligns Intel on and his salary is peanuts in the grand scheme.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 15:08:55 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Oh yes, Show me your evidence and I can show you 3 ER articles from Jan, Nov and yesterday where Intel consistently guided low. Dont BS me, I can show you Cisco ones as well. Guiding lower and barely meeting it is not called 'value'. Pat has vision for 2025,So have Boeing, Airbus, AirBnb who all expect Travel to double by 2025 (This still makes sense). Pat is experimenting. There are lot of big 'IFs' attached till 2025.Do you think Intel is @ $45 and next qtr if they barely meet and again guide low, Will it hold $45 ? Imagine Intel repeating this for next 5-6 qtrs till 2025. The stock will go down to $30 AMD and NVDA are eating Intel' DC market cap. Wait till Tuesday. Remind me on Tuesday 3rd May when AMD publishes DC numbers.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 16:15:34 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Pat wasn't promising anything. Uncompetitive in GPU market until 2024, low volume shipments during 2022 with low pricing, catching AMD is server space 2025 . He said something new? It takes years of development to come up with something decent. Why would I listen to short term prognosis? Literal noise. Intel is quite shameless so their PR isn't worth listening to neither.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 17:43:04 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
AMD is down because the market is down. Not rational because it doesn't have to be. If it continues to grow and make profits, I'm sure it'll be back to aths, but in the meantime the rest of the market says you'll just have to wait.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 02:30:48 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
AMD was $2 in 2015
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Thu Apr 28 18:47:45 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Because lots of people think semiconductor is cyclical and AMD will have a massive slowdown in growth of revenue and profit. Personally I think it's nonsense. Just look at the earnings of TSM, AMZN, MSFT and GOOGL. Both AMD's supplier (TSM) and the customers of their highest margin product (AWS, Azure, GCP) are seeing massive growth. There's no way the revenue and profit growth rate of AMD is going to be worse than TSM, since the revenue growth of advanced nodes (which AMD products are fabbed on) is higher than all nodes average, and TSM is having 30%+ revenue growth and 40%+ profit growth this quarter. I expect AMD to report at least 40% revenue growth and 50% profit growth this quarter.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 07:58:18 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
It's a bear market and its risky to hold stocks that are so richly valued - what happens if some very positive forward projections miss? This is one of the many questions AMD holders have been asking themselves and its not a bad idea to ask yourself whenever you buy a company selling at 30 or 40 x earnings. I'm not saying doing so is inherently bad, but the stock comes with huge risk to the downside and less upside. I'm not saying AMD won't get back to those highs or even go higher, but expect richly-valued stocks to have volatility especially in times of FUD.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 07:08:01 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Yeah, analysts are hating on HPE and DELL too, but seem to forget their servers power Azure, AWS and GCP. Heck Google’s search servers have been Dell PowerEdges at least since 2010. I don’t know how you can be bullish on MSFT, GOOG and AMZN but bearish on AMD, GFS, DELL etc.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 16:49:57 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
The are cyclical. Whenever AMD sells a better CPU than Intel, AMD stock goes up. Whenever Intel sells the better CPU, AMD stock goes down.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 15:14:32 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Are you trying to say it’s overvalued? AMD was on the brink of bankruptcy in 2015. It has massive amounts of debt due in the upcoming 2 years and no revenue to pay it. AMD was effectively bankrupt, and everybody thought so. Now they make better products than Intel 🤷‍♀️ Your comment being upvoted is proof to me this sub has gone to shit, I’m just about done with this sub…
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 16:51:19 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
AMD will always be the better bang for your buck though. Nvidia is nice if you want to pay 500 bucks for your card.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Thu Apr 28 18:49:15 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Lol u sure? Lisa Su literally revived AMD from its grave
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Thu Apr 28 20:47:27 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
But it hasn’t been 10 years since AMD became competitive with Intel
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 16:58:30 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
It took 10 years for AMD to become competitive again.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 16:59:05 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
Uhhh.. yeah more or less, I agree with that. Still, wouldn’t AMD be enjoying 10 years of prosperity under this rule? They’re only ~5 years in.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 17:44:02 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
"Usually"? Back in the 20th century when AMD started making their own chips (rather than ripping off Intel's), they were the leader in performance and price. Only time AMD wasn't top dog with their own design was with the Bulldozer era circa 2011 (and thereafter until Ryzen).
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 20:32:45 2022 SUBREDDIT : stocks
I believe in you man. My 2nd ever stock was AMD at $3 back in like 2013. I knew nothing about finance but I followed it religiously and essentially picked up what I needed to know along the way. One very good sign is that you sound like you maybe a bit of a contrarian. This is good because it's important to think independently and ignore the market. The most important thing is to thing about is market cap. Ask yourself is this really worth that price? Pretend you are buying a house or a small buisness thats the way to win. No company is worth an infinite price anyone who does not seem to implicitly acknowledge this is a bad investor.*
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 23:25:07 2022 SUBREDDIT : Stock_Picks
AMD strong support at $120 Fuck AMD strong support at $100 Fuck AMD strong support at $95 Are we sure this time?? AMD strong support at $80 GUH AMD strong support at $0 In retrospect puts may have been the play.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Fri Apr 29 23:13:05 2022 SUBREDDIT : wallstreetbets
Who is thinking of AMD calls?
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Sat Apr 30 12:47:06 2022 SUBREDDIT : wallstreetbets
If you want to be smart about it, put 90% into a proper account and leave it, allow your 10% to be shit you can just throw around. The thing about DD is it really only works long term, markets aren't really that rational on a day-to-day basis and the benefit of DD is made through 0.1% differences a day. I remember WSB peddling AMD and NVIDIA when they were under 10$, and people still lost money daily on FDs. If you're just trying to have fun, I've found that I made the most money by just going with gut instinct, if I see bad news and with zero thought I say "oh god I have to sell it all", then odds are the market is gonna be red and I'm shorting.
KEYWORD : AMD DATE : Sat Apr 30 06:12:47 2022 SUBREDDIT : wallstreetbets
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2022.04.12 13:38 afreakingchorizo [DREs] All References from Drag Race España S2E03

Hola, hola, hola!
It's a new day on the werkroom and I'm here like every week, trying to help you understand these queens a little more. In this episode we got not one but two recreations of iconic Spanish TV shows and also an homage to the actresses who've worked with our most celebrated film director, Pedro Almodóvar.
If you want to check previous episodes' references, here you have them:
Let's go!
4:57 – When asked if they miss Ariel, Sharonne calls her her favorite detergent. Just mentioning this here in case you don’t have Ariel in your country.
5:08 – The same way “maricón” is a derogatory term that the gays have reclaimed and made their own, lesbians have “tortillera” (tortilla maker) and “bollera” (bun baker). There are A LOT of possible origins for these terms and none seems to be better than the rest, so I’m not going to get into that. Nowadays, “bollo” (bun) is used as a shortened version of “bollera”, meaning lesbian, so Juriji is saying she found Ariel hot in drag. They say these terms a lot during this episode.
6:45 - Venedita calls her quick drag make up look “maquillaje de Badoo” (Badoo make-up). This is a dating site/app mostly frequented by chonis.
7:54 – The minichallenge today is “El gran juego de la loca”, a riff on the 90s game show “El gran juego de la oca” (The great goose game). This is a deep cut but bear with me: it was 1993 and the same broadcasting company that’s producing now Drag Race (Antena 3) decided to create a giant board game directly based on the children’s board game “The game of the goose” in which four adult contestants had to play in order to accumulate money and whoever reached the end first, won. This life-sized board game had 63 game tiles, each of them having a different effect on the players if they were to step on them. These included challenges such as rock climbing, bodypainting, mud wrestling, getting their hair buzzed off or waxed, thunderdome-style cage fighting AND the game Drag Race is making a homage here: “Beso o tortazo” (kiss or slap). In the original game, the contestant had to listen to the beginning of a flirty sentence uttered by one of the program’s cast members and guess if it would end on a happy or angry note. The hand gestures Supremme is making when introducing the minichallenge and even the jingle used when the logo appears are clear references to this game show.
09:27 – Supremme is calling the pit crew “pollitas” (little chicks) today, which also means little dicks.
So, I’m just going to list the Spanish phrases here with their literal translation [plus their equivalent in english for those I could find it] because that’s usually quite fun:
- Marina: A más años, más desengaños (The more years, the more disappointments)
- Jota: No es más grande el que más abulta (It’s not bigger that who’s bulkier).
- Sethlas: De aquellos polvos vienen estos lodos (From that dust came this mud) [You reap what you sow]
- Samantha: Cuando las barbas de tu vecino veas pelar, echa las tuyas a remojar (When you see your neighbour shaving his beard, you better start soaking yours) [To see the writing on the wall]. She says “mojar” (to wet) instead of “remojar” (to soak).
- Juriji: Al pan, pan y al vino, vino (Bread is bread, wine is wine) [Let's call a spade a spade]
- Sharonne: En tiempo de higos no hay amigos (When it’s time for figs, there are no friends). She replies that she doesn’t have an “higo” (fig) which is slang for pussy.
- Venedita: Amor reñido, amor querido (lovers you fight are the ones who you really love) [True love never runs smooth] She just says “nabo” (turnip) which is slang for dick.
- Onyx: Manos frías, corazón caliente (Cold hands, warm heart).
- Diamante: Mal de muchos, consuelo de tontos (The hardship of many is only a fool’s solace) [Misery loves company]
- Estrella: Hasta el rabo todo es toro (Even the tail is part of a bull) [It ain't over till the fat lady sings] She says “arcada” (to gag) because well, “rabo” is also another way of saying “dick” in Spanish.
- Juriji 2: A rey muerto, rey puesto (Deceased King, crowned king) [Off with the old, in with the new] She says “podrido” (rotten).
- Onyx 2: En todas partes cuecen habas (Beans are boiled everywhere) [It's the same the whole world over]
- Diamante 2: Primavera mojada, verano seco (Wet spring, dry summer).
14:08 – The Queens only need to hear the intro song to know exactly what the main challenge is going to be about. This week’s maxichallenge is called “El diario de Putricia” (Whoricia’s diary), a reference to the daily show hosted by Patricia Gaztañaga from 2001 to 2006 (it continued with a different host) named “ El diario de Patricia” (Patricia’s diary). This was a Maury Povich-esque show in which regular people appeared to get help from Patricia on such varied topics as teenage pregnancy, infidelity, long-lost relatives, makeovers, out of control teenagers, gay/trans individuals, unusual phobias and more. It was broadcasted each afternoon/evening and it really gave us a lot of iconic TV moments from that trans woman who left the studio after showing her pussy to that old man dressed as a cat. Fellow Spaniards, now is the moment to share your favourite “El diario de Patricia” moment in the comments!
14:23 – When Onyx says he loves telenovelas he says “Ya cállate, maldita” with some Mexican/latin accent… I guess, because the Canary Island’s accent is really similar to that already.
15:43 – In his week guest judge’s intro video he mentions that the Javis have more “pluma” (feathers) thank him. We say that someone has feathers when they behave clearly gay. That’s why he throws two fistfuls of feathers to the air.
16:13 – Tortilla Española is a dish that’s made primarily with egg and potatoes. There are two factions always on the brink of civil war in Spain: those who like their tortilla with onion and those who like it plain. If you haven’t tried it, it’s a fairly easy thing to made (if you don’t screw it up when flipping it) and it’s delicious.
16:18 – The name of the second skit in Spanish is “prueba de paternidrag”, a riff of “paternidad” (paternity).
17:48 – Sethlas is given the role of “Golla Porda”, which doesn’t mean anything unless you swap the first letter in both words turning it “Polla Gorda”, that literally means fat cock.
18:03 – Venedita’s character is “Mari Conchita la poligrafista” (Mari Conchita, the polygraph lady). Apart from embedding the word “maricón” in the female name “Conchita”, this is actually a reference to an actual lie detector lady named Conchita (pictured here with Belén Esteban) who was a kind of recurring character in the gossip TV show, “Sálvame”. She’s in charge of interpreting the data when low-tier celebrities take her tests live.
18:11 – Jota’s character is named “Golfa Pérsica”, which is the female version of “Golfo Pérsico”, the persian gulf. The joke here is that “golfa” also means “slut”.
19:19 – Sethlas calls Samantha Pocoyó, a children’s animated TV show character. Judging by the other names Samantha is called right after (Voldemort, Nosferatu) I believe she meant to call her Caillou, who is another kids’ TV show character who’s actually bald.
20:24 – The term “tortilleras” appears again as Diamante, Sharonne and Estrella call her team “Team Tortilleras”.
MAIN CHALLENGE – EL DIARIO DE PUTRICIA
20:41 – Right when the logo for this appears, you can hear someone saying “pero, ¿usted quién es?” (who are you, though?), a viral soundbite from this clip from the real show where a guy brought his crush to the show and declared his love for her just to discover that she didn’t even know who the hell he was.
21:23 – Diamante says she’s “hasta los huevos” (fed up), which could be literally translated to “up to my eggs”. Eggs are one of the main ingredients of Tortilla Española and also what we informally call balls.
21:39 – Catch Estrella straight up eating a plant from a pot! She confirmed on Twitter that’s where the “black slime” came from… she ate dirt.
22:29 – There’s always a friend who brings a tortilla to gatherings such as birthdays.
22:36 – “Sofrito” and “Pisto” are very traditional Spanish preparations who heavily feature onions.
23:10 – Sharonne’s onion character mixes Spanish and Catalan and has a thick Catalan accent.
24:49 – When Diamante gets on the floor she asks someone to flip her before she burns, like a regular tortilla would.
40:42 – Jota tells the queens that Lola Flores (singer, dancer, she has been mentioned like 20 times already this season) gifted her grandmother a “mantón de Manila” (Manila shawl) which can be used by Flamenco dancers. They are called like that because originally these featured embroidering inspired by Chinese and east Asian motifs.
46:14 – When Supremme asks Javi Calvo which would be the title of a movie about the Javis’ lives, he says “Hable con ella” (Talk to her), which is the first Almodóvar reference of the mainstage this week.
46:17 – After that, Javier Ambrossi complains that he’s the always in charge of talking by saying “me toca siempre”. The verb “tocar” means “to touch” so this sentence could also be interpreted as “he always touches me” and that’s why Supremme tells him he should be happy about that.
46:29 – Eduardo Casanova is an actor and filmmaker. As an actor, he’s primarily known in Spain for the role of Fidel in the sitcom “Aida”, in which he starred when he was just a kid. He has directed the movie “Pieles” (Skins) which I haven’t seen because I feel repulsed by its poster. In case you’re wondering what he’s wearing, it’s one of designer Manuel Bolaño’s creations featuring teddy bear heads.
46:37 – Eduardo compares Ana Locking to Ana Polvorosa, one of his cast mates in the sitcom “Aida” which was where Eduardo became well known when he was quite young.
46:45 – Supremme recites three word-by-word quotes from three different Pedro Almodóvar’s films: The first one is from “La flor de mi secreto” (The flower of my secret), the second from “Mujeres al borde de un ataque de nervios” (Women on the verge of a nervous breakdown) and the third from “Kika”.
47:01 – Our host introduces the category for this week’s runway by calling Almodóvar “un señor de la mancha de cuyo nombre sí quiero acordarme” (A man from La Mancha who’s name I do care to remember). This is a variation on Don Quixote’s first line: Somewhere in La Mancha, in a place whose name I do not care to remember. Then she does Penelope Cruz’s iconic “Peeedroooo” scream at the Oscars.
RUNWAY TIME!
47:21 – So, category is: Mujeres Almodóvar (Almodóvar women). The thing that most Spanish actresses aspire to is to appear in one of Almodóvar’s films and turn into an official “chica Almodóvar”. This has been known to be a sign of a successful career. Some of the actresses included in this list are: Penélope Cruz, Carmen Maura, Victoria Abril, Verónica Forqué, Rossy de Palma, Marisa Paredes:format(jpg)/f.elconfidencial.com%2Foriginal%2F57e%2Fb0a%2Fe0e%2F57eb0ae0ee21ee37de27c71176676d51.jpg), Julieta Serrano and many more.
Since the show already provided reference photos for these looks, I’ll only mention again the character and movie the queens are portraying today and some other background details if relevant. They really made my life easier this week!
47:23 – DRAG SETHLAS is dressed as Tilda Swinton in The Human Voice (2020), Almodóvar’s first English language (short) film based on the play of the same name by Jean Cocteau.
47:25 – As she steps onto the runway, Eduardo asks if she’s Jose Luis Moreno because of the axe in her head. Jose Luis Moreno is a showman and ventriloquist:format(.JPG)/f.elconfidencial.com/original/bbf/3fd/bf3/bbf3fdbf38c367a4036f7a400243480b.jpg) turned businessman who’s now being investigated for fraud. The thing is, his house in Madrid was robbed in 2007 when he was inside and one of the perpetrators axed him in the head. He famously gave an interview in that same house back in 2016 and explained that he got the axe stuck in his head.
47:46 – Ana makes a pun calling Sethlas’ dress a “tienda de campana” (bell) instead of “tienda de campaña” (tent). Ñs are important, y’all.
48:03 – ESTRELLA is dressed as Rossy de Palma in Kika (1993).
48:05 – Ana calls for the prison warden because that’s what the character Estrella is presenting on the runway wanted to be (so she’d be surrounded by women all day). When she says that in the movie, her friend replies what Javi Ambrossi says right away “Qué heavy eres, Juana” (You’re too much, Juana).
48:35 – Javi Calvo asks if the movie was called “Kika Lorace”, who is another famous Spanish drag queen and one of the guest contestants in season one’s Snatch Game. Her drag name is pronounced almost exactly as “Qué calor hace” (It’s hot in here).
48:32 – The faces Estrella makes at this point are also a reference from this moment in the film.
48:35 – Eduardo recites another great quote from the movie: “Todos los hombres que llevan bigote son maricones o fachas, o ambas cosas a la vez” (men who wear mustaches are all queer or fascists, or both).
48:50 – SAMANTHA is portraying the two main characters from Women on the verge of a nervous breakdown (1988): First Lucía and then Pepa.
48:59 – Supremme and Eduardo really know their shit and throw in yet another quote from this film. Lucía is discharged from a mental institution after faking she’s been cured.
49:25 – Plot point: During the film, Pepa adds sleeping pills to her gazpacho to commit suicide.
49:44 – VENEDITA also shows two looks in the runway, both inspired by Bad Education (2004).
50:21 – DIAMANTE is wearing the iconic look from The skin I live in (2011)
50:55 – SHARONNE is dressed as Marisa Paredes’ character, Becky del Páramo, from High Heels (1991).
50:59 – As she appears on the runway, Javi Ambrossi calls her “Marica Paredes”. “Marica” is another version of the word “maricón”.
51:17 – The judges are kind of rude to point out the similarity between Sharonne today and actor Eusebio Poncela. Prison, honey.
51:48 – When JOTA steps on the runway dressed as Andrea Caracortada (Andrea Scarface) from Almodóvar’s Kika Javi Calvo calls her Andrea Carajota right away. If you watched DRUK3 you probably recognize this look from what Choriza May was wearing during the roast episode.
52:12 – Javi Ambrossi compares Jota to actress Alba Flores, grandaughter of Lola Flores and who you might recognize from the Netflix series Money Heist.
52:21 – JURIJI graces us with her stunning interpretation of Penelope Cruz’s Chanel outfit from Broken Embraces (2009).
52:26 – Ana Locking sentences Juriji to life sentence, in Spanish “cadena perpetua”. This is because the word “cadena” means “chain”.
53:00 – MARINA is dressed as a female version of Tigriño/Zaca, one of the characters in The Skin I Live in.
53:06 – Supremme quotes the same Lola Flores’ song Jota used as his entrance line in episode 1.
53:30 – Just as Marina leaves the runway, Ana says she wants to eat her “Tigretón”, which is a kind of snack cake filled with cream and caramel and covered in chocolate. Its mascot is a tiger.
53:33 – Despite Javi Calvo calling her “Rabocop” (dick-cop), ONYX is actually dressed as Andrea Caracortada too. She defines herself as “la reina bollera”. I told you they used this term a lot this episode!
53:44 – When Eduardo Casanova says “¡No me va a grabar más!” (Stop recording me!) he’s making a reference to this moment where paparazzi were waiting for singer Isabel Pantoja at the door of her country house, and she came out to plain fight with them. She even took one of the guys’ cameras.
54:02 – Many of you probably got this, but you might be too young to remember Knight Rider, the 1982 tv show about a guy who fought crime aided by his talking car, KITT. Fun fact: the Spanish title for this show was “El coche fantástico” (The fantastic car). That’s what Supremme is referencing here.
54:21 – Shoutout to Antonia San Juan who played La Agrado beautifully in All about my mother (1999).
56:20 – What’s with Samantha and the Harry Potter references?
58:14 – Sharonne’s onion was no regular red onion. She was a Figueres onion, typical from that region of northern Catalonia.
1:01:03 – During Untucked, Marina compares her confrontation with Juriji with a moment straight out of “¿Dónde estás, corazón?”, a kind of gossip talk show from the 2000s where low-tier celebrities used to go and air their dirty laundry giving way to many fights.
1:03:04 – Sharonne ends Untucked by saying they should all go and take some “Orfidal”, which is the brand of sleeping pills Pepa uses to poison her gazpacho in Women on the verge of a nervous breakdown.
1:07:14 – Supremme’s final comments to the bottom queens are also Almodóvar movies quotes: Samantha’s is from Kika, Jota’s is from Labyrinth of Passion (1982) and Diamante’s is from All about my mother.
1:07:59 – Today’s lipsync song is introduced as the main song from the movie High Heels, in which a young Miguel Bosé performs it in full drag. Originally, this was a Nino Ferrer song who recorded this in French in 1963. A couple of years later, Italian singer Mina recorded her version in Italian (and also in Spanish, but with different lyrics) and then Almodóvar translated it into Spanish and asked Galician singer Luz Casal to record it for his film in 1991.
1:11:54 – Finally, the sentence Supremme uses to save Jota is “hagas lo que hagas, ponte bragas” (whatever you do, wear panties), which is yet another quote from an Almodóvar film, in this case Pepi, Luci, Bom (1980).
And that's it! I hope I didn't mess up too many links and I hope this episode gave you a good reason to check out some of Almodóvar's films. And talking about movies, if you really want to catch a lot of references next week you have a week to do your homework and watch “La Llamada” (Holy camp!) by Los Javis. It’s a musical about two girls who are stuck in a Christian camp over the weekend during which one of them receives “the call” in the form of a Whitney-Houston-singing God-figure. It’s not bad!Anyway, I want to thank those of you who were kind enough to tip me via Paypal ( paypal.me/afreakingchorizo) this week and also remind you that the reference posts from DRES S1 are easily accessed through this linktree: https://linktr.ee/afreakingchorizo
¡Que suene la música!
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2022.03.28 00:55 Rikoraru [USA][H][Gameboy Color, GBA, Gamecube, NES, 3DS, N64, DS, Switch, PS1-PS4, Wii. WiiU, Xbox, Xbox360, XboxOne, and Consoles[W]Paypal

Hi, I am posting this once again. If you want pics to a game listed, just ask. I will send a chat response and send pics asap.

Game prices do not include shipping. I charge 5$ for anything that fits in a bubble mailer. 10$ for a medium sized packages, and 15$ for a large. If the post office charges me more than that (which they usually do) I just take the rest of the cost as my own.

Thank you for looking through my collection.

Gameboy Color

Title Price
Vegas Games (loose) $14

Gameboy Advance

Title Price
Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3 (loose) $17.50

Gamecube

Title Price
Crash Bandicoot The Wrath of Cortex (no manual) $13.50
Dave Mirra Freestyle BMX 2 $6
Jeremy McGrath Supercross World $4.50
Mario Kart Double Dash (loose) $48
Resident Evil 4 (no manual) $23
Shamu's Deep Sea Adventures $5
Sonic Mega Collection [Player's Choice] $14
Splinter Cell Double Agent $10
The Urbz Sims in the City $17.50
Yu-Gi-Oh Falsebound Kingdom [Player's Choice] $11

NES

Title Price
Amagon (loose) $7
Bomberman (loose) $20
Bugs Bunny Birthday Blowout (loose) $10
Captain Skyhawk (loose) $3.50
Cobra Command (loose) $5.50
Duck Hunt (loose) $7.50
Flying Dragon (loose) $7.50
Friday the 13th (loose) $13
Gauntlet II (loose) $9.50
Golf (loose) $4.50
Ikari Warriors [5 Screw] (loose) $10.50
Iron Sword Wizards and Warriors II (loose) $4
Jack Nicklaus Golf (loose) Free with purchase of anything.
Karnov (loose) $10
Lee Trevino's Fighting Golf (loose) $4
Legacy of the Wizard (loose) $4
Legendary Wings (loose) $10.50
Mighty Bomb Jack (loose) $9
Ninja Crusaders (loose) $33.50
Operation Wolf (loose) $4
Pinball (loose) $6
Q*bert (loose) $9.50
RoadBlasters (loose) $6
Section Z (loose) $5
Star Force (loose) $6.50
Star Tropics (loose) $9
Street Fighter 2010 the Final Fight (loose) $10.50
Super Mario Bros 2 (loose) $22
Super Mario Bros and Duck Hunt (loose) $5
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II (loose) $14
Top Gun (loose) $5
Totally Rad (loose) $22
Wolverine (loose) $14.50
World Games (loose) $7.50
Xexyz (loose) $12

Nintendo 3DS

Title Price
Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King (Box and manual, no game) $55.50
Final Fantasy Explorers $17
Heroes of Ruin $13
Mario Kart 7 $10.50
Tetris Axis $15
Theatrhythm: Final Fantasy $9.50
Yo-Kai Watch (sealed) $10

Nintendo 64

Title Price
Mia Hamm Soccer 64 (loose) $7
San Francisco Rush (loose) $10

Nintendo DS

Title Price
Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs $4.50
Drawn to Life $5.50
Imagine: Zookeeper $4
LEGO Harry Potter: Years 1-4 (Box and manual, no game) $5
Learn Geography $6
Mario Hoops 3 on 3 (Box and manual, no game) $6
Mario Kart DS (Box and manual, no game) $10
New Super Mario Bros (Box and manual, no game) $8
Petz Rescue Endangered Paradise $4
Plants vs. Zombies (Box and manual, no game) $8
Pokemon Pearl (Box and manual, no game) $34.50
Sonic Rush (Box and manual, no game) $16
Super Mario 64 DS (Box only) $6
Tamagotchi Connection Corner Shop 2 (Box and manual, no game) $15
The Princess and the Frog $6
Toy Story 3: The Video Game (Box and manual, no game) $4
Wario Master of Disguise (Box and manual, no game) $13
Wario Ware Touched (Box and manual, no game) $22
Yoshi Touch and Go (Box and manual, no game) $9

Nintendo Switch

Title Price
Cave Story+ $26.50
Crystal Crisis [Launch Edition] $18.50
Dead Cells $20
Gal Metal World Tour Edition $18
God Eater 3 $20
Has-Been Heroes $8
Hellmut: Badass from Hell $13
Killer Queen Black $9
Owlboy (sealed) $18
Penny Punching Princess $16
Resident Evil Revelations Collection (no code) $15
Rogue Legacy (sealed) $35
SNK Heroines: Tag Team Frenzy $18
Scribblenauts Showdown $8
Snack World: The Dungeon Crawl Gold $18
Streets of Rage 4 [Limited Run] (sealed, can throw in card as well) $35
Tennis World Tour $14.50
Terraria $16
Touhou Kobuto V: Burst Battle $14
Umihara Kawase Fresh $16
Yu-Gi-Oh Legacy of the Duelist: Link Evolution $16

PSP

Title Price
Daxter $8.50
Death Jr. 2 Root of Evil $21
Dissidia 012: Duodecim Final Fantasy $20.50
Dissidia Final Fantasy $8.50
Dynasty Warriors Strikeforce $8
Family Guy $18
Harvest Moon Boy and Girl $25.50
Lord of Arcana (sealed) $8.50
Mercury Meltdown $6
Monster Hunter Freedom 2 $8
Prinny Can I Really Be the Hero? Premium Edition (Everything except the game) $18
Stacked With Daniel Negreanu $4.50

Playstation

Title Price
Driver [Greatest Hits] $7.50
Final Fantasy IX [Greatest Hits] (missing disc 3) $7
LEGO Island 2 (no game) $11
NASCAR 2000 $4.50
NBA Live 2001 $5.50
NFL GameDay 2003 $4.50
PlayStation Underground Jampack: Winter 2000 $6
Star Wars Demolition $12
Syphon Filter 2 $8.50

Playstation 2

Title Price
007 Everything or Nothing (No manual) $5.50
007 Nightfire $6.50
18 Wheeler American Pro Trucker $6.50
ATV Offroad Fury 2 $5
ATV Quad Power Racing 2 $5
Big Mutha Truckers (No manual) $6
Blitz the League (No manual) $7
Bully (Box and manual, no game) $9.50
Clock Tower 3 (loose) $33.50
Dance Dance Revolution Extreme 2 $7
Dance Dance Revolution Max 2 (No manual) $4
Dance Dance Revolution Supernova $6
Dance Dance Revolution X $7
Destroy All Humans (loose) $7
Devil May Cry 2 (No manual) $5
Dog's Life (loose) $10
Dragon Ball Z Budokai 2 (Box and manual, no game) $8
Dynasty Warriors 5 $9.50
ESPN NFL 2K5 $10.50
Ed Edd N Eddy Mis-Edventures $11.50
Enter the Matrix $5
Ephemeral Fantasia (loose) $15
Escape from Monkey Island $8
Final Fantasy X (no manual) $6
Final Fantasy X-2 $6
Final Fantasy XII $6
Grand Theft Auto III $6
Grand Theft Auto III [Greatest Hits] (No manual) $4.50
Grand Theft Auto Vice City $7
Guitar Hero $19.50
Guitar Hero II $8.50
Gun (No manual) $8
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire $6
Hitman Contracts (No manual) $4.50
Jackass The Game $20
Jak 3 [Greatest Hits] $6.50
Jak II [Greatest Hits] (Game and Manual, comes in unofficial box) $5
Jak and Daxter The Precursor Legacy [Greatest Hits] (loose) Free with any purchase
Karaoke Revolution $4.50
Kingdom Hearts 2 $6.50
Kingdom Hearts RE Chain of Memories [Greatest Hits] (Sealed) $15.50
Kingdom Hearts [Greatest Hits] (loose) $5
Kingdom Hearts [Greatest Hits] (No manual) $6
Kung Fu Panda $6
LEGO Indiana Jones The Original Adventures $6
Lord of the Rings Return of the King $10
Lord of the Rings Two Towers $8
Madagascar $7
Madden 2007 $6
Madden 2008 (No manual) $5.50
Mafia $10
Marvel Nemesis Rise of the Imperfects (No manual) $10
Medal of Honor Rising Sun $5
Mercenaries $7
Metal Gear Solid 2 [Greatest Hits] (loose) $7
NBA Street Vol 2 [Greatest Hits] $23
Naruto Ultimate Ninja 2 [Greatest Hits] $7
Over the Hedge [Greatest Hits] $8
Persona 4 $25.50
Prince of Persia Sands of Time (loose) $4
RPG Maker 3 $12.50
Red Dead Revolver $13
Resident Evil 4 $10.50
Resident Evil Dead Aim (No manual) $36.50
SOCOM II US Navy Seals $4.50
SOCOM III US Navy Seals $5
SSX 3 $9
Shadow of the Colossus (loose) $6.50
Shaun Palmers Pro Snowboarder $5.50
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 FES $30
Sonic Heroes [Greatest Hits] $8.50
Sonic Mega Collection Plus [Greatest Hits] $8
Soul Calibur II [Greatest Hits] $7
Spiderman 2 $22.50
Splinter Cell $5
SpongeBob SquarePants The Movie (No manual) $9
SpongeBob SquarePants The Movie [Greatest Hits] $11
Spy Hunter [Greatest Hits] Free with any purchase
Star Ocean Till the End of Time $10.50
Star Wars Battlefront 2 $9
Super Trucks Racing (No manual) Free with any purchase
Swashbucklers $10.50
Syphon Filter Omega Strain $6
Tekken Tag Tournament [Greatest Hits] $8.50
Test Drive [Greatest Hits] $4.50
The Getaway (No manual) $5
The Sims 2: Castaway $14.50
The Sims Bustin Out $9
The Urbz Sims in the City $11
Tiger Woods 2003 $4.50
Tony Hawk 4 $8
Tony Hawk Underground $9
Tony Hawk Underground 2 $10
True Crime New York City $15
Ty the Tasmanian Tiger $9
Ty the Tasmanian Tiger 3 (No manual) $14
UFC Throwdown $7.50
WWE Crush Hour $10
WWE Smackdown Shut Your Mouth $13.50
WWE Smackdown vs. Raw [Greatest Hits] $9
Wallace and Gromit Project Zoo $9
Wipeout Fusion (No manual) $7.50
X-men Legends 2 (No manual) $10.50
XIII $10

Playstation 3

Title Price
AC/DC Live Rock Band Track Pack $5
Assassin's Creed $7
Assassin's Creed II $4.50
Assassin's Creed: Revelations $4
Batman: Arkham Asylum $6
Batman: Arkham City $4
Batman: Arkham Origins $8
Battlefield 3 $4
Beyond: Two Souls [Steelbook Edition] $10
Blazblue: Continuum Shift Extend $5
Borderlands The Pre-Sequel (sealed) $6
Brink $4
Brutal Legend $7.50
Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 $4
Condemned 2 Bloodshot $12
Cross Edge $37
DMC: Devil May Cry $6.50
Dead Island $5
Dead Island Riptide $5.50
Dead Rising 2 $4.50
Dead Space 2 [Limited Edition] $11.50
Dishonored Free with any purchase
Dragon Age: Origins [Ultimate Edition] $18
FIFA Soccer 11 $4
Fallout 3 $14
Fallout: New Vegas $8
Final Fantasy XIII $7
God of War Collection $8.50
Heavy Rain $4
Homefront $5
Infamous $8
Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 Remix $6
Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 Remix $7
L.A. Noire $4.50
LEGO Pirates of the Caribbean: The Video Game (loose) $8.50
Lair $7
Mass Effect 2 $5
Michael Jackson: The Experience $4.50
Minecraft $11.50
NBA 2K10 $8
NBA 2K9 $5.50
NCAA Football 08 $5
Ni No Kuni Wrath of the White Witch [Greatest Hits] $6.50
Portal 2 $8.50
Rage Anarchy Edition $4
Resident Evil 5 $6
Resident Evil 6 $6.50
Resistance 3 $12
Rock Band $25
Rock Band 2 $7
Saints Row IV $6
Saints Row: The Third $4
Sonic Generations $11.50
Soul Calibur IV [Greatest Hits] $8
South Park: The Stick of Truth $5.50
Starhawk (sealed) $7.50
Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition (loose) $6.50
The Darkness II $7.50
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Free with any purchase
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception $4.50
Uncharted Drake's Fortune $6
Under Night In-Birth Exe:Late $19
Unreal Tournament III $5.50
Warhawk $5.50
XCOM Enemy Unknown Free with any purchase

Playstation 4

Title Price
Assassin's Creed Odyssey $12
Assassin's Creed Valhalla $16.50
Assassin's Creed: Origins $11.50
Batman: The Enemy Within $13.50
Battleborn (big box with figure) Free with any LARGE purchase
Battlezone VR $9.50
Borderlands 3 $12
Borderlands [Game of the Year] $11
Borderlands: The Handsome Collection $5.50
Catherine: Full Body [Premium Edition] $58
Code Vein $11.50
Code: Realize Bouquet of Rainbows $14
Conan Exiles $18.50
Dark Rose Valkyrie $21.50
Darkest Dungeon: Ancestral Edition $12.50
Darksiders III $8.50
Dead Cells $12
Dead or Alive 5 Last Round $13
Devil May Cry 5 $10.50
Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth $16
Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth Hackers Memory $12
Doom Eternal $19.50
Doom VFR $11.50
Dragon Age: Inquisition $6
Dragon Ball FighterZ (sealed) $13
Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age $11
Dying Light $11
Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited $4.50
Exist Archive: The Other Side of the Sky $13
Extinction $6.50
Forager $8
Ghost of Tsushima (sealed) $28
God Eater 2 Rage Burst $10
God Wars Future Past $13
Gungrave VR $19
Homefront The Revolution $6.50
Horizon Zero Dawn $6
Injustice 2 $6.50
Just Sing $6
King's Quest The Complete Collection $18
Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 + 2.5 Remix $9
Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue $8
Langrisser I & II (sealed) $53
Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III [Early Enrollment Edition] $23
Life is Strange: Before the Storm $11
Little Dragons Cafe $11
Little Nightmares II $20
Loading Human: Chapter 1 $7
Lumo $11
Marvel vs Capcom: Infinite [Deluxe Edition] $32
MediEvil (sealed) $11
Mega Man 11 $9.50
Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes $6
Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor $5.50
Monster Hunter: World $5.50
Moonlighter $13
Mortal Kombat 11 [Premium Edition] $16
Mortal Shell $17
Mothergunship $10.50
Mutant Year Zero: Road to Eden $10
No Straight Roads (sealed) $17
Overwatch Origins Edition $11
Persona 5 Strikers (sealed) $19
Phantom Breaker Battlegrounds Overdrive (sealed) $40
PlayStation VR Worlds $12
Playstation VR Demo Disc 3 $9.50
Poison Control (sealed) $29
Portal Knights $9.50
Prototype Biohazard Bundle $35
Quar: Infernal Machines $10.50
Rage 2 (sealed) $7
Raging Loop $13
Red Dead Redemption 2 $15
Resident Evil 2 (sealed) $18
Resident Evil 4 $12
Resident Evil 7 Biohazard [Gold Edition] $14
Risk of Rain 2 (sealed) $14
River City Girls (sealed, I can throw in the card and soundtrack) $71
Rocket Arena Mythic Edition (sealed) $4.50
Rogue Legacy (sealed) $42
Sakuna of Rice and Ruin (sealed) $29
School Girl Zombie Hunter $19
Senran Kagura: Peach Beach Splash [Collector Edition] (sealed) $38
Shovel Knight $16
Sims 4 $8
Skylanders Swap Force: Starter Pack (Game and case, no big box or figures) $8
Soul Calibur VI $11
South Park: The Fractured But Whole [Gold Edition] $26.50
Spyro Reignited Trilogy $14
Stardew Valley Collector's Edition $14.50
Streets of Rage 4 [Limited Run] (sealed) $44
Superbeat: XONiC $8.50
Tetris Effect $23
The Escapists + The Escapists 2 $12
The Evil Within $15
The Evil Within 2 (sealed) $10
The Last of Us Remastered $8
The Order: 1886 $9.50
The Sexy Brutale [Full House Edition] $16.50
The Walking Dead: A New Frontier $8
The Wizards $16
Thief $7
This is the Police II $7.50
Tokyo Twilight Ghost Hunters Daybreak Special Gigs (sealed) $8
Tokyo Xanadu EX+ $26.50
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1 and 2 $18
Trials of Mana (sealed) $20
Trine: Ultimate Collection $19
Valkyria Revolution $8.50
Wargroove Deluxe Edition $9.50
We Happy Few $7
Wolfenstein Youngblood $7.50
Wolfenstein: The New Order $9.50
Wolfenstein: The Old Blood $11
XCOM 2 $8
Yakuza Kiwami [Steelbook Edition] $32.50
Yonder: The Cloud Catcher Chronicles $11.50
Yooka-Laylee and the Impossible Lair $26

Sega Genesis

Title Price
OutRun (loose) $39
Sonic Spinball (loose) $5
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (loose) $5
Sonic the Hedgehog [Not for Resale] (loose) $8
Super Off Road (loose) $8
Zombies Ate My Neighbors (loose) $26.50

Super Nintendo

Title Price
B.O.B. (loose) $18
Faceball 2000 (loose) $10.50
NCAA Basketball (loose) Free with any purchase
Phalanx (loose) $26.50
Populous (loose) $7
Super Mario World (loose) $16
Super R-Type (loose) $12.50

Wii

Title Price
Animal Crossing City Folk $19
Cursed Mountain $17
Disney Sing It: Pop Hits (No manual) $4.50
Elebits $4.50
Epic Mickey $5
Excite Truck $7
Harvest Moon Magical Melody $13
Harvest Moon Tree of Tranquility $10.50
Harvest Moon: Animal Parade $18.50
Hidden Mysteries: Titanic $6.50
Just Dance $5.50
Mario Kart Wii $28
My Word Coach Free with any purchase
MySims $6.50
MySims Kingdom $6
Nancy Drew The White Wolf of Icicle Creek $7.50
No More Heroes $15
Resident Evil 4 $11.50
Rhythm Heaven Fever $80
Samba De Amigo $5.50
Space Chimps $4
Star Wars Clone Wars: Republic Heroes $5.50
Super Mario Galaxy [Nintendo Selects] $12
We Ski $11
Wii Fit Free with any purchase
Wii Fit Plus $7
Wii Sports $21.50
World of Zoo $5.50
Zelda Twilight Princess $10.50
Zumba Fitness 2 $5

Wii U

Title Price
Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze [Nintendo Selects] (Box and manual, no game) $7
Mario Kart 8 $14.50
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate $15.50
New Super Luigi U $26.50
Nintendo Land x2 $7.50 (each)
Pikmin 3 $13
Skylanders Giants $10
Splatoon $10
Super Smash Bros. $11
Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE $15.50

Xbox

Title Price
CSI Crime Scene Investigation $5.50
Elder Scrolls III Morrowind [Platinum Hits] $10.50
Forza Motorsport $6
GoldenEye Rogue Agent $4
Half-Life 2 (loose) $6.50
Halo: Combat Evolved (Case and manual, no game) $8
Hitman 2 (No manual) $4.50
Jaws Unleashed $9
LEGO Star Wars [Platinum Hits] $7
Lord of the Rings Return of the King $9
Mercenaries (No manual) $5
Midtown Madness 3 (No manual) $9
Painkiller Hell Wars (loose) $8
Peter Jackson's King Kong (Case is jacked up) $5
Splinter Cell (loose) $5
Splinter Cell $6
The Godfather $8
The Suffering $22
The Suffering Ties That Bind (No manual) $16

Xbox 360

Title Price
AC/DC Live Rock Band Track Pack $5.50
BioShock Infinite: The Complete Edition $9.50
Bioshock $5
Borderlands The Pre-Sequel (sealed) $6
Brink Free with any purchase
Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 $4.50
Catherine $13
DJ Hero 2 $5
DJ Hero $8
Dead Rising (loose) Free with any purchase
FIFA Soccer 12 (loose) Free with any purchase
Far Cry 3 $4.50
Gears of War $6.50
Guitar Hero Aerosmith $9
Guitar Hero II $9
Guitar Hero: Metallica $26
Guitar Hero: Van Halen $18
Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock (loose) $18
Kinect Sports $4.50
Lost Planet Extreme Conditions $4.50
MLB 2K13 $8
Nier $27
Red Dead Redemption [Platinum Hits] $8
Resident Evil 5 $6.50
Rock Band 2 $7.50
Rock of the Dead $8
Splatterhouse $36
Star Ocean: The Last Hope $8.50
Tales of Vesperia $6.50
The Beatles: Rock Band $7.50
The Evil Within $6.50
Two Worlds II $4.50
Viva Pinata Trouble in Paradise $14

Xbox One

Title Price
Assassin's Creed: Unity $7
Battleborn (sealed) $5.50
Dead Rising 3 $4
Dishonored [Definitive Edition] $8.50
Doom $6.50
Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 $8
Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Edition $10
FIFA 15 $5.50
Final Fantasy XV Free with any purchase
Gears of War Ultimate Edition $5.50
Hello Neighbor $9
Killer Instinct: Combo Breaker Pack $12.50
Minecraft $14
Prey (sealed) $6
Rock Band 4 $11.50
Sea of Thieves $12
Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 $43
Witcher 3: Wild Hunt $9.50

Consoles

System Price
PlayStation System (loose, all wires included) $35
Playstation 3 System 80GB [Backward Compatible] (loose, all wires included) $180
Playstation 4 Pro 1TB Kingdom Hearts III Console (Comes with everything except kh3 game or playstation theme) $435.50
PlayStation Vita Slim Console (loose, comes with charger, can throw in carrying case) $150
Sega Genesis Model 2 Console $102
Xbox One Console - Deep Blue (loose, comes with all wires and controller) $204
Hyperkin Retron 5 (loose, comes with all wires and wireless controller. Sega Genesis port does not read, can be fixed) $100
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