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Bigpoint Breaching T.O.S & Contractual agreement with it's users.

2021.11.15 19:18 Glum_Football2963 Bigpoint Breaching T.O.S & Contractual agreement with it's users.

Over the last few weeks myself and others have set out to prove Bigpoint are nothing more than lying scum who deserve to be brought to courts for their malpractice and blatant disrespect for the community they created.

They have done NOTHING to ban the accounts of BOTTERS myself included as I have OPENLY ADMITTED IN GLOBAL CHAT ASWELL AS TO SUPPORT IN MESSAGES AND ALL WAS CAUGHT ON ON VIDEO!

Instead my friend decided to see what would get him a permanent ban and so far all they seem to ban is SWEARING at the devs and support for lying to their players and not doing their job or sticking to their own TOS on the matter which can be found here General Terms and Conditions for Bigpoint GmbH (hereinafter Bigpoint) and are as follows:

1.2.7 The prohibition on pushing applies to the Accounts of different Users. An Account cannot be used to dishonestly gain advantages through the Account of another User through the transfer of Game items or currency, or by deliberately losing a battle (“boosting”).

1.2.8 The use of programs that place an excessive load on the Services are strictly forbidden, and this applies to the use of any software that would influence normal gameplay, in particular programs that systematically or automatically control games or individual game functions (bots, macros, etc.). Any reproduction, analysis or modification of the Games, Game components or content provided within the scope of the Services is also prohibited.

1.2.9 The use of programming bugs and/or errors to achieve personal gain is strictly prohibited. Any identified bugs or errors should be reported immediately via the Support contact form.

1.2.10 The use of the Games and Services using anonymiser services (e.g. proxies) or other processes that conceal the location of the residence or the usual place of residence of the User is prohibited.

And if they had updated these rules in their TOS they breached it by thier own clause in it which is as follows:

5.3 The User will be notified of the changes made to the Terms and Conditions either on the Websites or by email. Changes to the Terms and Conditions will always be clearly indicated to the User the next time they log in. The amended Terms and Conditions shall be effective immediately provided the User has agreed to such. Furthermore, the conditions as stipulated in section 5.1 shall apply.


So in conclusion Bigpoint, the devs and support over at DarkOrbit are covering up corporate malpractice on a massive scale by allowing this and breaching their own terms of service and is therefore liable for prosecution by every user of DarkOrbit, please see the attached link and brief description on this: Breach of Contract Law: Everything You Need to Know (upcounsel.com)

Levels of Breach of Contract

Contracts are signed with the intention of reducing the possibility of future misunderstandings. Because of some changes in the circumstances or financial affairs of the parties to the contract, one party may fail to live up to his expected terms in the agreement. This is called a breach of contract. Contract breaches vary in severity. There are four basic types of breach of contract scenarios:
A Minor or Partial Breach: This involves the breach of some terms of the agreement. A partial breach does not excuse the aggrieved party from living up to his side of the bargain.
An Anticipatory Breach: An anticipatory breach is one that has not happened yet. Instead, one of the parties to the contract suspects that the other party will soon breach the contract. An anticipatory breach is very hard to prove in court.
Material Breach: A material breach is a serious violation of the contract and may relieve the aggrieved party from fulfilling his part of the bargain. An example is when one of the parties fails to pay for the goods or services provided.
Fundamental Breach: A fundamental breach of contract is one of the most serious contract violation levels. In such a breach, the aggrieved party can sue and get damages. An example of a fundamental breach is when a person buys a house and, on coming to occupy it, finds out that the house is being occupied by another family to whom the property owner subsequently sold it.

This clear breach of their own Terms Of Service amounts to a FUNDAMETAL BREACH as the game is not what is advertised nor is the terms of service enforced against the clearest violations. As stated the ONLY people to be banned are those that have lost hope this issue was ever going to be resolved and swore at support. Which by the letter of the law they cannot enforce such actions against someone when they first breached their own terms of service as this would constitute a MATERIAL BREACH.


This is bipoints own section regarding its contract with the user from its own webpage General Terms and Conditions for Bigpoint GmbH (hereinafter Bigpoint)

2 Offer and conclusion of the contract

2.1 By completing the registration form or downloading and installing a Game, the User enters into a BINDING CONTRACT (hereinafter referred to as the “User Application”). All the fields marked “mandatory” on the registration form must be completed fully and correctly.
2.2 The contract between Bigpoint and the User is considered valid when Bigpoint approves the User Application. Confirmation of the User Application may be explicitly communicated by Bigpoint through the first contractual performance by Bigpoint or by the provision of the Game or Services.
2.3 Insofar as it is necessary to create an Account to use Games or Services, Bigpoint will promptly send a confirmation email acknowledging receipt of the User Application to the email address provided by the User. This acknowledgment of receipt does not represent a binding acceptance of the User Application. The confirmation may also be contained in the declaration of acceptance.


These disgusting tactics employed by these online gaming provider (Bigpoint) is now out there for all to see as their level of attention to covering it up is just pathetic as I and my team have proved in this last week. Please see the attached videos on BIGPOINTS BOT OF CHOICE for 3 of their games and just how easy it is to get away with it WITH their help.

Final evidence Bigpoint allows botting (against their TOS) Admitting to being a Bot/Cheater - YouTube

FULL Video for Bigpoints bot Golem.exe on DarkOrbit - YouTube

DarkOrbit Autolocking botters exposed! - YouTube

Proof that Bigpoint Games create and sell bots to there own games Pirate storm, Darkorbit & Seafight - YouTube

Proof that Bigpoint Games create and sell bots to there own games Seafight DarkOrbit & Pirate storm - YouTube

Dark Orbit 2021 11 05 15 15 07 AUTOLOCK NPC BOTTING CUBES - YouTube

Dark Orbit 2021 11 04 21 44 06 AUTOLOCK BOTTERS - YouTube

Bigpoint uses anti bot measures against me hours after uploading evidence of their bot - YouTube (and it wasn't even his account that was botting, yet Bigpoint penalized him for giving them proof of bots like they asked. Also after this all his progress was FROZEN and he received ZERO rewards from the retrievers or from special npcs. Essentially halting his progress in its tracks and then when he asked for a refund as you breached your TOS you treated him deplorably and repeatedly goaded him into responding in a manner unbecoming of him. He also has multiple personality disorder and your deplorable tactics of provoking this man only served to anger him further which I believe was your intentions. His account has now been permanently banned which you claim is due to your TOS yet why is it one rule for him and 1 for everyone else? yet again BLATANT MALPRACTICE.

He also contacted support about his game progression being halted abruptly and was given NO response from any of the support team despite multiple attempts to get the situation resolved over thee course of 2 weeks. After which he requested a refund and their response was "good luck" Here is there section regarding claims for defects

10 Claims for defects

10.1 Bigpoint grants the User access to the Games and Services in their current version only (section 1.2). Users have no right to demand the maintenance or restoration of a specific version or range of functions of the Games and Services and/or a score. When purchasing Premium Features, the User is granted all the statutory and contractual rights. The User acknowledges and agrees that, similar to any other software, the Games and Services provided by Bigpoint can never be totally free of errors. The Games and Services can only therefore be considered defective if their playability or usability is severely compromised and over a prolonged period of time.
Users shall document any faults regarding the Games and Services and/or other services or products supplied by Bigpoint, and will provide a full written report of the error messages displayed. Before reporting potential bugs, Users must consult the instructions for the Games and Services and any other troubleshooting tools provided by Bigpoint (in particular FAQ lists and discussion forums for problems). Users will use their best endeavours to support Bigpoint in its attempts to remove the bug or defect from the relevant Game or Service.

Maybe Bigpoint or one of the devs would care to comment on this since every single one of mine and my teams messages has been ignored regarding any of this.

I would please ask that if you have not read the whole thread and watched all associated videos that you refrain from commenting until you have seen the evidence provided, Thank you.
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2021.11.10 19:44 Glum_Football2963 Proof Bigpoint has been selling bots to their own games for years and now the truth is out there for all to see

Proof Bigpoint has been selling bots to their own games for years and now the truth is out there for all to see
Please watch the videos in the links provided and make up your own mind.
If you agree with my standpoint I would ask that you please share to get the word out about a major game developers betrayal of its own customers, and the gaming community they created by selling bots to their own games.

Proof that Bigpoint Games create and sell bots to there own games Darkorbit, Seafight & Pirate storm - YouTube

Proof that Bigpoint Games create and sell bots to there own games Seafight DarkOrbit & Pirate storm - YouTube

Proof that Bigpoint Games create and sell bots to there own games Pirate storm, Darkorbit & Seafight - YouTube

FULL Video for Bigpoints bot Golem.exe on DarkOrbit - YouTube This one should grab your attention, as a collaboration between myself and TheRealNinja1 we have a video detailing just how much you can get away with IN PLAIN SIGHT ( I was also promised a follow up video to the account 24 hours later to prove it hasn't been banned).
Final evidence Bigpoint allows botting (against their TOS) Admitting to being a Bot/Cheater - YouTube Here is the video promised above proving NO BAN issued 24 hours later despite clear admission of guilt and disrespect to the game & no ban issued today as a result of his swearing in chat or second admission of guilt.

these are Bigpoints terms of service regarding bots, macros, bugs/glitches etc. as can be found here General Terms and Conditions for Bigpoint GmbH (hereinafter Bigpoint)

1.2.6 Users are authorised to create multiple accounts, but certain games operated by Bigpoint permit Users to play with one Account only (“prohibition of multiple Accounts”), and detailed information on this is provided in the Game rules. Bigpoint strongly recommends that all Users with multiple Accounts read the rules for the relevant Game, as a breach of the prohibition of multiple Accounts may result in an immediate suspension of the User.
Furthermore, even in Games that enable Users to have multiple Accounts, communication and any kind of interaction whatsoever between the Accounts of the same User is prohibited (ban on “pushing”). In particular, an Account may not be used to create advantages for another Account held by the same User to, for example, transfer Game items or currency from one Account to another Account of that User, and one Account cannot compete against another Account held by the same User.
1.2.7 The prohibition on pushing applies to the Accounts of different Users. An Account cannot be used to dishonestly gain advantages through the Account of another User through the transfer of Game items or currency, or by deliberately losing a battle (“boosting”).
1.2.8 The use of programs that place an excessive load on the Services are strictly forbidden, and this applies to the use of any software that would influence normal gameplay, in particular programs that systematically or automatically control games or individual game functions (bots, macros, etc.). Any reproduction, analysis or modification of the Games, Game components or content provided within the scope of the Services is also prohibited.
1.2.9 The use of programming bugs and/or errors to achieve personal gain is strictly prohibited. Any identified bugs or errors should be reported immediately via the Support contact form.
1.2.10 The use of the Games and Services using anonymiser services (e.g. proxies) or other processes that conceal the location of the residence or the usual place of residence of the User is prohibited.

And here is the description for Darkorbit from Bigpoint themselves, as can be found here DarkOrbit Reloaded – Bigpoint

DarkOrbit Reloaded is a space-combat MMO where players can explore vast & alien territories to gather valuable resources, form clans to control sectors and ultimately have giant interstellar battles and raids.
Following on from the success of Seafight, DarkOrbit became something of a cult phenomenon and a conservative estimate would suggest that some of our players have spent more than 5000 hours playing it. Now reinvented as DarkOrbit Reloaded, it has been brought into the here and now with features such as the UBA leagues and, of course, it is now in 3D!
Dark Orbit Reloaded underwent a wave of bot-banning which, although not necessarily the most profitable course of action, resulted in a huge increase in how fair the game is for our players.

If after the final video you are not convinced of Bigpoints involvement/complicity in the use of bots and other "cheats" then you haven't been paying attention.

The email about the associated account that was used for botting on Bigpoints games #1
The email about the associated account that was used for botting on Bigpoints games #2

The email about the associated account that was used for botting on Bigpoints games #3

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2020.11.16 18:15 Pleco2 Seafight Booster Pack

With this LootCard you get the code for the Booster Pack in the PC game Seafight. This pack is only available for new players.
About this game
Embark on a dangerous journey through seas fraught with abominable sea beasts and scurrilous pirates. Forge your legacy. Pirates to the starboard side, monsters on the port! Man your stations, ready the cannons, sharpen the harpoons and fire a warning shot across her hostile brow! Blast a harpoon deep into the gullet of that floating monstrosity! And keep yer swashbuckling mitts on the hilt of your cutlasses.
In Bigpoint’s hit adventure browser game Seafight you never know who or what’ll be attempting to board your outfit or attack your hull. Be prepared for anything in Seafight: explosive naval battles, gigantic sea monsters, the need for quick thinking strategy, adventure and action – all in the time it takes for a barnacle to attach itself to your underbelly.
And that's inside:
This code is redeemable once until 31.12.2020. A cash payout is not possible.
Your personal code
SFT3-XERF-Z5KX-M2G6
  1. Create a new account here
  2. Once logged in you will find a redemption option in the menu. Enter your code there.
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2020.10.23 21:20 dutchdelightsnl Seafight Booster Pack

https://youtu.be/oBEYyyzTw4M
With this LootCard you get the code for the Booster Pack in the PC game Seafight. This pack is only available for new players.
About this game
Embark on a dangerous journey through seas fraught with abominable sea beasts and scurrilous pirates. Forge your legacy. Pirates to the starboard side, monsters on the port! Man your stations, ready the cannons, sharpen the harpoons and fire a warning shot across her hostile brow! Blast a harpoon deep into the gullet of that floating monstrosity! And keep yer swashbuckling mitts on the hilt of your cutlasses.
In Bigpoint’s hit adventure browser game Seafight you never know who or what’ll be attempting to board your outfit or attack your hull. Be prepared for anything in Seafight: explosive naval battles, gigantic sea monsters, the need for quick thinking strategy, adventure and action – all in the time it takes for a barnacle to attach itself to your underbelly.
And that's inside:
This code is redeemable once until 31.12.2020. A cash payout is not possible.
Your personal code
SFT3-GF6S-2FAC-9R4V
  1. Create a new account here
  2. Once logged in you will find a redemption option in the menu. Enter your code there.
If you have questions about the product or how to redeem it, please contact the game operator at www.bigpoint.com.
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2020.10.23 20:37 dutchdelightsnl Seafight Booster Pack

With this LootCard you get the code for the Booster Pack in the PC game Seafight. This pack is only available for new players.
About this game
Embark on a dangerous journey through seas fraught with abominable sea beasts and scurrilous pirates. Forge your legacy. Pirates to the starboard side, monsters on the port! Man your stations, ready the cannons, sharpen the harpoons and fire a warning shot across her hostile brow! Blast a harpoon deep into the gullet of that floating monstrosity! And keep yer swashbuckling mitts on the hilt of your cutlasses.
In Bigpoint’s hit adventure browser game Seafight you never know who or what’ll be attempting to board your outfit or attack your hull. Be prepared for anything in Seafight: explosive naval battles, gigantic sea monsters, the need for quick thinking strategy, adventure and action – all in the time it takes for a barnacle to attach itself to your underbelly.
And that's inside:
This code is redeemable once until 31.12.2019. A cash payout is not possible.
Your personal code
SFT8-C6GU-F7XU-SP7T
  1. Create a new account here
  2. Once logged in you will find a redemption option in the menu. Enter your code there.
If you have questions about the product or how to redeem it, please contact the game operator at www.bigpoint.com.
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2019.12.12 07:24 Cuddlyaxe The Space Force is a good idea

Note: I originally wrote this as a CMV but decided to post it here too because I spent wayyy too long writing it, so I thought I might as well post it here too. Anyways, my point is there will probably be some parts of this which may sound a bit weird as they were in a CMV context
As many of you may or may not have heard, Congress passed the 2020 defense budget which includes, among other things, a Space Force.
I'd like to start this post off by saying that I do not support Donald Trump, and disagree with the vast majority of his policies. However, the one good thing which may come out of his presidency might be the Space Force.
I feel like people reacted to the idea the way they did because Trump proposed it and they don't like Trump. The idea itself sounds ludicrous at first, who are we fighting. Aliens? And Trump suggested it, so it must be another one of his stupid ideas! The fact that late night shows, the media and the public at large discussed it as some sort of joke instead an actual policy only hurt the ideas credibility. I still remember Stephen Colbert joking about it to Neil De Grasse Tyson only be startled to learn that the latter actually supports it. Colbert eventually came around to understand what Tyson was saying, but there was still a minute or two of laughing and rhetorically asking "I mean really?" by pointing out it's apparent sheer and obvious ridiculousness.
But it wasn't a stupid proposal. It's a proposal which has been debated amongst the defense community for quite a while now, which various administrations have explored rather seriously. While people on social media said the bill has no expert support when some very, very big names from the defense, intel and space communities totally unrelated to the current admin signed a letter supporting the Space Force.
Now that I've completed my little intro, I'll address some of the actual critiques I see of the Space Force past "it's stupid" before going over what I see as some of the benefits.
Critiques:
  1. Cost. One of the most common critiques of the Space Force is the idea that it will cost a ton of money which can be better spent elsewhere. People act like this will cost billions of dollars and that we're literally building a fleet of deathstars from the ground up. However, this is misguided as the entire project is rather cheap. The DOD's Proposal says 95% of the funding for the Space Force will come from other branches of the military. Only 5% will be new spending. That 5% totals up to about... 500 million dollars. or about .07% of the current military budget. Whether or not you have problems with overall military spending, a .07% increase is not as astronomical as its opponents are making it out to be
  2. Militarization of Space. The other common critique I hear of the Space Force is that it will start a new space race. This might be valid if we were the first to militarize space. China and Russia are already militarizing space. In fact China already has a Space Force though it's operations are already combined with Electronic and Cyberwarfare. Russia had an independent space force until 2011. The idea that the US is somehow about to start a space cold war is misguided for this reason, our adversaries are already militarizing space
Benefits
  1. Keeping up: As I've already conveyed, I think people take the fact of the United States not being involved in a space based cold war as proof that there is not a space race going on. But truth be told, there is one going on, we're just not in it. It is inevitable that we will eventually join it once the technology difference is too great. It is better to get in the race 5 minutes after it starts instead of an hour after it starts.
Truth be told American military hegemony wanes by the second and we cannot passively expect to be in first place anymore. A good example of us being behind our adversaries is in areas such as hypersonic missiles, in which I'd argue the US ranks in third place.
  1. Space Research. I think the majority of us is excited by prospects of space travel or a Mars colony. Funding Space research through the military is good for these prospects, as where NASA's budget is unstable and often the first thing on the chopping block, cutting the military's budget is much harder. Even if you have no interest in the safety of the United States, a Space Force would encourage a steady stream of funding into Space Exploration. But will anything useful for civilians come out of military funding? Well, the military has invented plenty of things which have ended up having very important civilian applications, from the internet, to computers themselves. From GPS to microwaves. Hell they even invented Duct Tape. If you have any interest in space exploration at all, the Space Force provides a politically safe vehicle for consistent research
  2. Efficiency: This is the big one. Why would we do so much better with a unified Space Force when we spend only 500 million more? The way the current system is set up is an absolute mess, that's why. Responsibility for space acquisitions is split between about 60 organizations with no authority or central leadership to guide them. This results in a lack of communication, slow decision making and a lack of accountability.
  3. Split Workforce: While this might be a part of efficiency, I felt this was important enough to give it its own category. There's not a lot of people working in space related tasks and when you split that small community over 60 orgs... There's not enough there for there to be a viable career path for space professionals in each of these organizations. In addition, because the different organization involved in Space Defense do not view Space as their main objective, people these few Space Professionals are shifted in and out of Space related jobs in order to fulfill said org's main objectives - which is not space. This means people are often taken out of Space related jobs before they become too experienced.
  4. Focus. As I said in the previous section, none of the military services really view space as their main domain. They all have different doctrines, all of which use space in a support role. Army? Use space tech to support landfighting. Navy? Use space tech to seafighting. Whenever a conflict of interest rises between a service's primary warfighting domain and space, they have always chosen space. For example, 2010 and 2014, the Air Force budget for aircraft and space systems both decreased by 1/3, but when the budget began to rise again, aircraft procurement rose by 50%, while space procurement continued to decline by another 17%.
Overall: Space Force good idea
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2019.12.12 07:22 Cuddlyaxe CMV: The Space Force is a legitimately good idea

As many of you may or may not have heard, Congress passed the 2020 defense budget which includes, among other things, a Space Force.
I'd like to start this post off by saying that I do not support Donald Trump, and disagree with the vast majority of his policies. However, the one good thing which may come out of his presidency might be the Space Force.
I feel like people reacted to the idea the way they did because Trump proposed it and they don't like Trump. The idea itself sounds ludicrous at first, who are we fighting. Aliens? And Trump suggested it, so it must be another one of his stupid ideas! The fact that late night shows, the media and the public at large discussed it as some sort of joke instead an actual policy only hurt the ideas credibility. I still remember Stephen Colbert joking about it to Neil De Grasse Tyson only be startled to learn that the latter actually supports it. Colbert eventually came around to understand what Tyson was saying, but there was still a minute or two of laughing and rhetorically asking "I mean really?" by pointing out it's apparent sheer and obvious ridiculousness.
But it wasn't a stupid proposal. It's a proposal which has been debated amongst the defense community for quite a while now, which various administrations have explored rather seriously. While people on social media said the bill has no expert support when some very, very big names from the defense, intel and space communities totally unrelated to the current admin signed a letter supporting the Space Force.
Now that I've completed my little intro, I'll address some of the actual critiques I see of the Space Force past "it's stupid" before going over what I see as some of the benefits.
Critiques:
  1. Cost. One of the most common critiques of the Space Force is the idea that it will cost a ton of money which can be better spent elsewhere. People act like this will cost billions of dollars and that we're literally building a fleet of deathstars from the ground up. However, this is misguided as the entire project is rather cheap. The DOD's Proposal says 95% of the funding for the Space Force will come from other branches of the military. Only 5% will be new spending. That 5% totals up to about... 500 million dollars. or about .07% of the current military budget. Whether or not you have problems with overall military spending, a .07% increase is not as astronomical as its opponents are making it out to be
  2. Militarization of Space. The other common critique I hear of the Space Force is that it will start a new space race. This might be valid if we were the first to militarize space. China and Russia are already militarizing space. In fact China already has a Space Force though it's operations are already combined with Electronic and Cyberwarfare. Russia had an independent space force until 2011. The idea that the US is somehow about to start a space cold war is misguided for this reason, our adversaries are already militarizing space
Benefits
  1. Keeping up: As I've already conveyed, I think people take the fact of the United States not being involved in a space based cold war as proof that there is not a space race going on. But truth be told, there is one going on, we're just not in it. It is inevitable that we will eventually join it once the technology difference is too great. It is better to get in the race 5 minutes after it starts instead of an hour after it starts. Truth be told American military hegemony wanes by the second and we cannot passively expect to be in first place anymore. A good example of us being behind our adversaries is in areas such as hypersonic missiles, in which I'd argue the US ranks in third place.
  2. Space Research. I think the majority of us is excited by prospects of space travel or a Mars colony. Funding Space research through the military is good for these prospects, as where NASA's budget is unstable and often the first thing on the chopping block, cutting the military's budget is much harder. Even if you have no interest in the safety of the United States, a Space Force would encourage a steady stream of funding into Space Exploration. But will anything useful for civilians come out of military funding? Well, the military has invented plenty of things which have ended up having very important civilian applications, from the internet, to computers themselves. From GPS to microwaves. Hell they even invented Duct Tape. If you have any interest in space exploration at all, the Space Force provides a politically safe vehicle for consistent research
  3. Efficiency: This is the big one. Why would we do so much better with a unified Space Force when we spend only 500 million more? The way the current system is set up is an absolute mess, that's why. Responsibility for space acquisitions is split between about 60 organizations with no authority or central leadership to guide them. This results in a lack of communication, slow decision making and a lack of accountability.
  4. Split Workforce: While this might be a part of efficiency, I felt this was important enough to give it its own category. There's not a lot of people working in space related tasks and when you split that small community over 60 orgs... There's not enough there for there to be a viable career path for space professionals in each of these organizations. In addition, because the different organization involved in Space Defense do not view Space as their main objective, people these few Space Professionals are shifted in and out of Space related jobs in order to fulfill said org's main objectives - which is not space. This means people are often taken out of Space related jobs before they become too experienced.
  5. Focus. As I said in the previous section, none of the military services really view space as their main domain. They all have different doctrines, all of which use space in a support role. Army? Use space tech to support landfighting. Navy? Use space tech to seafighting. Whenever a conflict of interest rises between a service's primary warfighting domain and space, they have always chosen space. For example, 2010 and 2014, the Air Force budget for aircraft and space systems both decreased by 1/3, but when the budget began to rise again, aircraft procurement rose by 50%, while space procurement continued to decline by another 17%.
Overall, I think that the Space Force is a legitimately good idea. If anyone manages to build on one of the common critiques, give a new one or invalidate enough of what I see as benefits to convince me that the cons outweigh the pros of a Space Force, I'd love to change my mind
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